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To: El Sordo
But I do not know how likely that is to happen on such an emotionally charged issues.

It's very unlikely unless JimRob takes a position on the level and tone of discourse that will be allowed on FR on this issue. I considered myself a "birther" until just a few days ago. When I started commenting on Orly Taitz's incompetence, unprofessionalism, and self-promotion, I was soundly kicked to the curb of "birtherdome." Then personal attacks and taunting began. Mostly, I ignore it. Sometimes, I report it.

It seems that most, not all, birthers simply don't want to engage in reasonable conversation to discuss the facts and circumstances. Once you dispute their claims, they resort to name calling and personal attacks. It's pathetic "group-think" at its worst and reflects poorly on all FReepers because liberal sites extract and post the most ridiculous and/or hateful comments from the birther threads to present FReepers as crazies.

21 posted on 09/21/2009 12:11:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If people can’t have a devil’s advocate chit chat without name calling, then their claims would seem quite weak, I would think.


22 posted on 09/21/2009 12:25:07 PM PDT by mel
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The worst vitriol is always reserved for the apostate.

Nevertheless, I remain hopeful.

Perhaps if the latest Taitz suit is tossed on Oct. 5th it will become apparent that a new tone is needed here.

On a side note...

I've developed a working theory over the years that on any topic or issue, the more unhinged and irrational any group of advocates behave, the less factual or demonstrable support there is for what they advocate.

So far this has seemed to hold true in life.

26 posted on 09/21/2009 12:30:02 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"... to present FReepers as crazies"

Since the Birther movement started getting traction in this forum, many FReepers present themselves as crazies, the liberal sites simply highlight the craziness. BTW, you are not wrong about Orly Taitz. Incompetent, unprofessional, and self-promoting are right on the money, and I would add dishonest to that list.

51 posted on 09/21/2009 2:01:52 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Then personal attacks and taunting began. Mostly, I ignore it. Sometimes, I report it.

Some of them are downright paranoid. Freepers who have been here for the better part of a decade or more accused of being "moles". Yeah, that's it! I joined up in 2001 and proceeded to post more than 11,000 replies to establish my conservative bona fides just waiting for the opportunity to troll Birther threads and belittle Orly Taitz.

Sigh... The jig is up. My crafty ruse has been found out.

55 posted on 09/21/2009 2:20:23 PM PDT by Drew68
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