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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I suspect that behind the scenes, the SCOTUS quietly discovered that Obama is not native born, but true to form, they decided it would be too disruptive to the nation to point that out, in that he could only be removed by impeachment, which is impossible with this congress

Impeachment is for Presidents who misbehave, not for usurpers. If he is not eligible, the office is vacant, and has been since January 20th.

But, if his ineligibility is proven, it will produce a smell of a hess, legally speaking. It would probably keep lawyers employed, and well paid, for decades.

81 posted on 09/01/2009 4:30:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; yefragetuwrabrumuy
Impeachment is for Presidents who misbehave, not for usurpers. If he is not eligible, the office is vacant, and has been since January 20th.

That's my understanding of it also. But is the public aware of this? There are many people still around and voting who remember the impeached Clinton and the almost-impeached Nixon (both natural-born citizens eligible for the office).

Sometimes I think it would be a good idea to circulate little pocket copies of the Constitution to people (after the manner of religious tracts), with Article II section 1 clause 5 marked with a highlighter or Post-it note or something. It would be a means of raising public consciousness.

88 posted on 09/01/2009 7:51:26 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: El Gato

Once again, there is no constitutional provision for enforcement of the removal of someone in the office of POTUS who is not who he is supposed to be. It is like the gap in the constitution that does not designate who is responsible to vet proof of identity.

This is the “loophole” principle of Common Law, that unless something is specifically against the law, and that law is enforceable from a designated authority, it is legal. (That is, like with alcohol prohibition, being made a constitutional amendment was not enough, it also had to have “enabling legislation” to be enforced.)

I might add that we need *more* of this principle, not less, as the federal government has gone far beyond any possible constitutional limits to its authority. America would be a lot freer if the feds couldn’t write whimsical laws about every dang thing.

“Old European” law, which is mostly from the French Code Civil, which itself is derived from Napoleonic Law, that in turn comes from Roman Law, does *not* have this “Loophole” philosophy, so that unless something is pre-approved by the government and written into law, it is inherently *illegal*. Which sucks.

In any event, back to sitting president Barrio, even if he pulled off his mask to reveal a lizard face, there is no legal remedy other than impeachment, for his removal from office.


96 posted on 09/02/2009 8:47:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: El Gato

Actually, he cannot be impeached if he is found ineligable per the constitution. He is removed, any thing he signed is moot, which is laws, ammendments, finance reform, appointments (SCOTUS), he would then be arrested, found not to be a US Citizen, ie Illegal Alien, his aunty would be deported, he imprisoned. Joe Biden was elected VP, not President, but until a general election JB would fill in, unless the congress puts in the only other man to run for President...McCain
I wonder who is going to riot? Look at history, and look where the riots happen, and who gets looted. Its all in only one back yard, and it stays there. If it goes anywhere else. I suspect it will result in a lot of bloodshed.
The rule of law prevails. He is removed, there is a general election within 90 days. Until then, the VP steps in, and the speaker of the house.
Our constitution is set up correctly and the rule of succession is in place. Fear mongering is set up to disrupt the uneducated on the subject. Read up on it and relax.

B = Birth Certificate
I = is
R = Required
T = to
H = Honestly
E = Elect
R = Representative


100 posted on 09/02/2009 1:55:32 PM PDT by etraveler13
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