Posted on 08/25/2009 12:06:13 PM PDT by jzlouis
I read the article, then came across your usual baiting for an angry response. Wassa matta, obamanoid, can’t find anyone to aggrevate? Bwahahaha ... It is telling that you started your baiting with the typical Axelgreast lie that the SCOTUS has settled the issue of whom is a natrual born citizen. I’m beginning to wonder if you’re so stupid that you even believe that!
Nah, I look up and there you are.
It is telling that you started your baiting with the typical Axelgreast lie that the SCOTUS has settled the issue of whom is a natrual born citizen.
I didn't say that. But natural-born or not, what the Supreme Court has settled is that people born in the U.S. are citizens, regardless of what the author of the article may believe. I thought you said you'd read the article?
I’m beginning to wonder if you’re so stupid that you even believe that!
Yes well when it comes to being stupid I'll defer to your expertise in that.
Still try to conflate citizen with natural born citizen I see. You are such a predicatable little nettle, obamnoid.
Assuming, for the sake of arguement, your statement is true then wouldn’t that mean that Obama hasn’t been shown to be ineligible? And if not, then by law he is assumed to be eligible?
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I can agree with that. None of the cases have been heard yet so we don’t know. However, if he lied and proof was found that he was not born in Hawaii, he is done. A goner.
see this
TY. I just read Dreams again and highlighted all of the relevant things in it. I’m going to give one of my secretaries the task of putting them all together in once document. There are so many telling statements. Some that you miss when you first read it, but catch the second time. One thing is for sure, Odumbas* is a very strange individual and another is, I’m not sure Ayers didn’t write that book. It’s pretty apparent that some parts are blatant lies. Have you read it?
TANKS,Lu,,,
Hopefully it will be a BIG hammer...
Thanks for the ping!
There was, however, the law of nations (as evidenced by the Constitution itself which mentions it), but more important, there are lots of writings of the framers themselves on the subject. One must look to the purpose of the natural born clause for it to make sense. The framers did not want any foreign influence in the president. Really, anyone who engages in such wishful thinking as to imagine that when it comes to the natural born requirement for president, the framers only cared that a baby was plopped out on US soil disregarding foreign parent(s), is uninformed and not being logical.
Thanks... I think.
(...If you go to the source site, and read the comments below the article, this is definitely some scary stuff!)
"[Ed. In my opinion, nothing will come of anything written at this blog. Nothing will come of any of the law suits brought. Nothing will come of the grand Jury presentment issue. Nothing will stop Obama. I have personally felt his power and protection in my experience in the courts. He is here to stay. I publish all of this so that there will be some historical record. But just as my Citizenspook blog is now being controlled by some outside force - I am locked out of my own blog there - I expect that this blog will also be taken over at some point. Eventually, I see the internet being taken down and reborn in a much more censored format. What is happening before our very eyes is nothing short of a coup de tat. And it didn't start with Obama, but it just might end with him. He may be the last President of the US because I don't believe we are going to survive as a sovereign nation for more than 8 years.]"
And you are still a loyal little Birther. Look, all I was doing was pointing out that the point that Donofrio's latest legal gem was making has been dismissed by the Supreme Court on a number of occasions.
Agreed. But the key point in that is 'proof was found that he was not born in Hawaii' and to date you haven't been very successful at that.
Thanks, STARWISE. Good to see Donofrio is continuing the research on the NBC issue.
chilling.
You got the COLB, you got the BC, You got the "Native Born," and finally, you got the "Natural Born Citizen" issues floating around in a legal miasma, further compounded by well-meaning and fundamentally ignorant lay appreciations of each issue, including mine.
Was Stanley married, was she in Kenya, Vancouver, Hawaii, BOAC, TWA? Did she reside in the US long enough and at the right age? On and on.
And behind all the confusion, outright lies, disinformation, disingenuousness, etc. there are the not-so-subtle Soros millions paying for legal defenses, PR story placement, official bio's, hagios, etc ad nauseam.
In the meantime, the clock is running and it seems more than likely that the Preposter will complete a term. And all a reasonable man can say is that it is very possible that Barack H. Obama, Jr. may well be a US citizen, It is likely that he is possibly even a "Native-Born" US citizen. It is unlikely, to say the least, that he is a "Natural Born Citizen."
POSSIBLE SCARY SCENARIO: Some young legal Lochinvar gets this "NBC" issue to the newly debased SCOTUS. There, it will be found that yes, The Anointed One is NOT a Natural Born Citizen ....BUT BUT BUT differentiations between classes of citizenship: i.e., Naturalized, Native Born, Natural Born ... are discriminatory and therefore ipso-facto UN-Constitutional! IOW, they will turn eligibilty into a Civil Rights Issue! Viva el Anchor Baby Next Presidente!
In the meantime, there is something that could be done that is beyond Soros/Obama control. One state needs to pass a law placing the burden of proof of constitutional eligibility on Presidential candidates, forcing them to prove their eligibility as "Natural Born Citizens" before being placed on that state's ballots or receiving the vote of any of that state's electors. You know, like presenting a valid BC, or proving that both your parents were citizens ... silly little piddling stuff like that.
This could easily be done by 2012, thus ending any thought of a 2d term for you-know-who. Given the speed at which the wheels of justice turn, this might just be the most effective response to this outrageous challenge to the Constitution. I hope not ... but HOPE ain't a valid legal concept
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