We are not rounding up millions of people into internment camps. The cost alone should indicate that not to mention the horrible parallels in history.
A middle ground can be struck to deal wit hthe current issue.
Politicians let this issue slide for too long. Crack down on future illegals but there needs to be accomodation for a lot of the people that are here, have successful businesses, have families (even extended families, etc.).
Hell, I support strong immigration laws but you cannot intern 10s of millions of people then deport them? How would you do it? Planes, buses, boats, FedEx boxes?
Do you toss Chinese that escaped communism on a boat back to China for execution? How about Syrians or North Koreans? On and on. This isn’t just Mexicans but a whole host of people from worldwide. And yes, people from England, Canada, Norway, Sweden, etc.
People that are productive not just loafers.
The issue is too complex for simple “toss them into jail” responses. I do NOT support providing welfare for them but reality is what politicians have crafted for us over decades.
The middle ground is to enforce the law, particularly at the employer level, and then illegals would begin to self deport. That's already been demonstrated in Oklahoma and Georgia who toughened state laws, and just as a result of the economic downturn.
This blather about rounding up twelve million illegals is just a cheap scare tactic used by the pro-illegal crowd. That's not necessary. Self-deportation and law enforcement over a few years could accomplish what is needed.
Bingo! Well said!
No, but we should be.
The cost alone should indicate that not to mention the horrible parallels in history.
The cost of being a nation with no borders is far higher. As for the parallels of history, they are irrelevant. Either we have borders, or we don't. If we don't then let's just declare the North American Union and stop pretending.
A middle ground can be struck to deal with the current issue.
No. No more middle ground. No more compromise. Middle gounds and compromise are what got us into this mess.
Besides, I don't get any "middle ground" when I violate the law, and I was born here. Why should an invader get special rights?
Politicians let this issue slide for too long. Crack down on future illegals but there needs to be accomodation for a lot of the people that are here, have successful businesses, have families (even extended families, etc.).
Let them re-apply for admission.
Hell, I support strong immigration laws but you cannot intern 10s of millions of people then deport them? How would you do it? Planes, buses, boats, FedEx boxes?
1. On Day X, everyone in the United States has to go to the local courthouse and present legal proof of citizenship -- either a long-form birth certificate, a valid passport, or their naturalization papers.Do you toss Chinese that escaped communism on a boat back to China for execution? How about Syrians or North Koreans?2. Those whose credentials are verified receive a Citizenship Card with a unique serial number and their thumbprint and signature on it. This can be a simple, paper card -- no digital data strip or other tomfoolerly is required.
3. Laws are written requiring persons to present their card upon transacting any business with federal state, or local governments. This includes the filing of tax returns, drivers license applications or renewals, title transfers, motor vehicle registration, applications for welfare benefits, during traffic stops, change-of-address forms, college financial aid applications, military enlistment, corporate registrations, contracting, everything. The cards are checked by comparison to a master database of fingerprints, serial numbers, and signatures. If any of the three do not match with the database, the bearer is placed under arrest. Anyone arrested for some other crime who cannot prove their legal status is remanded to immigration authorities.
4. Accused invaders are brought before military tribunals on the charge of invading the United States. If found guilty, they are sentenced and bound over for deportation.
5. Convicted invaders with minor children or other dependents are given the choice of a suspended sentence followed by immediate free transportation to their home country with their dependents, or internment for the specified period in a camp with their dependents. (Any dependents who are legal U.S. citizens are free to come and go from the camp at any time.)
6. The assets of each convicted invader are seized by the state of residence and sold at auction. The majority of the proceeds go to the state treasury, to pay for the financial burden created by the invaders which has been borne by the citizens of that state. Another percentage goes to fund the enforcement program. A small percentage is placed in escrow to fund the invader's deportation.
7. U.S. troops return from abroad and are divided back into their state National Guard units. A border fence along the southern frontier is built and manned by these troops. Anyone crossing the border is detained; if they resist, they are killed.
Political asylum requests are handled through the usual channels.
On and on. This isn’t just Mexicans but a whole host of people from worldwide. And yes, people from England, Canada, Norway, Sweden, etc.
Do you actually know any people from England, Canada, Norway, or Sweden? Well, I do, and let me assure you that they live in fear of ICE. One day over the time specified on the jolly old H-1B is all it takes. Euros get deported all the time! There's no amnesty for white people!
The issue is too complex for simple “toss them into jail” responses. I do NOT support providing welfare for them but reality is what politicians have crafted for us over decades.
In political terms, reality is what we decide its going to be. Given sufficient will, nothing is impossible.