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To: glennaro

Well, very few people have demanded to see birth certificates from other Prez candidates, and for most purposes a short form is accepted. But what I had in mind was the “born of two U.S. citizen parents on U.S. soil” definition of “natural born citizen” which 99% of birthers had not even thought about before Obama came on the scene.


123 posted on 08/05/2009 11:46:02 AM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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To: Sloth

Still alot of residual anger and mistrust from the campaign. People in the base of what was supposed to be a 50 year majority didn’t like being shut out. Remember the kill him at the McCain rally? Or that elderly women who didn’t trust Obama because “he is an Arab”.

I’m not a PC person but I’m a realist. The MSM will continue to skewer us with people like Taitz and these birthers until either a new story pops up or the birthers just kinda give up. 9/11 truthers would gain some exposure every once in a while but just burn out. Eventually Dems just ignored them and moved on a few issues and got power in Congress.

We’ll have to wait these guys out, too much is at stake to lose the party to them. However given the strength of their convictions and their agnst from 2008 taking them out head on won’t work. Not really sure what the best thing to do right now is. A start would be at least us like minded FReepers getting a list or something together. Nice tag by the way.


124 posted on 08/05/2009 12:00:05 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (Step 1: Expel half the party and write off huge chunks of the country. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit.)
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To: Sloth
Although not all presidents or candidates have been questioned as thoroughly about their origins -- I recall that McCain was -- I think the growing question about Obama's qualification to serve as President has as much to do with his lies (e.g., publishing a fake COLB and false SSS documentation) and his extraodinary attempts to hide his past (e.g., no published school or medical records most often released, at least in part, if requested to serve as the nation's chief executive) as they do with the technicalities. Just because the issue of what defines a "natural born citizen" has not been addressed in the recent past -- although it was when the Constitution was written -- does not mean that we cannot legitimately examine now.

My concern is that if we no longer want this qualification to apply, there is a process to amend the Constitution that we must follow; not, as Obama worshippers who have been joined by the "anti-birthers" in this matter, simply want to ignore (at least until the next conservative candidate runs for the office).

126 posted on 08/05/2009 12:02:37 PM PDT by glennaro
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