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To: Non-Sequitur

The Constitution describes “natural born citizens” and “naturalized citizens” There are no other types. There is no method for a baby born in the US to be naturalized by having a citizen parent. So such children are NATURAL BORN citizens.


First off, that is not what is in the U.S. Constitution. The Constitution has “Citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen”. The issue of “Naturalized Citizen” has evolved over the years. That is where the story gets interesting and so tangled up. While there may be no explicit definition, when you put what case law there is into one pot, it becomes obvious that not one of those cases offers up a ruling, a judgement, a line of argument that ever contradicts this definition: A natural born citizen is born of TWO parents who are both Citizens. If one parent is not a citizen, naturalized or otherwise, then the child is “only” a Citizen.

this point has been made over and over and over again. There is nothing prejudicial or racial about it. It is a straight forward concept that some very immature and ill informed legal types cannot accept. They also happen to be the ones who prefer to ignore the U.S. Constitution.


36 posted on 08/03/2009 10:11:05 AM PDT by bioqubit
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To: bioqubit

The ruling in U.S. vs Kim Wong Ark contradicts your view of the law.

Kim Wong Ark was ruled a ‘natural born’ and had TWO parents who were not U.S. citizens.


41 posted on 08/03/2009 10:13:32 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: bioqubit
The Constitution has “Citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen”. The issue of “Naturalized Citizen” has evolved over the years.

No, the Constitution in Article I clearly states that Congress shall establish a uniform rule of naturalization, as opposed to natural-born. Those are the only two forms of citizenship identified. Where the Constitution refers to 'citizen' it applies to both classes. As in a Congressman can be natural born or naturalized.

A natural born citizen is born of TWO parents who are both Citizens. If one parent is not a citizen, naturalized or otherwise, then the child is “only” a Citizen.

And where does case law define that?

this point has been made over and over and over again. There is nothing prejudicial or racial about it. It is a straight forward concept that some very immature and ill informed legal types cannot accept.

Maybe because were immature and ill-informed enough to require something other than your opinion? Point me to the clause of the Constitution, the federal law, or the Supreme Court decision that says a natural-born citizen is one born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents and the case is closed. Otherwise you're the ill-informed one in this arguement.

47 posted on 08/03/2009 10:24:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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