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To: ckilmer
Thanks for the response.

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage.

This is like the two hospitals thing. O's people aren't on the same page on this. Or they weren't working off the same story. Even in a tighly run campaign there are people who act off what they personally think they know, not the story the candidate wants to put out.

His wife assumed that her husband's parents weren't legally married, and the website started out from the assumption that they were and he got Kenyan/British citizenship/subjecthood from his father. I don't think you can just combine the two claims and arrive at something by process of elimination or deduction, because the person who put the website together may not even have known about the rumor that O's parents weren't married.

I'd put my money on Michelle having more of the real story. In his memoir, Obama mentions something about not inquiring too deeply into his parents' marriage for fear of finding out that his parents were never really legally married. I suspect he found out that they weren't (though if true, we'd have to figure out what to do about the divorce papers). I suspect that's one reason why O won't release his long form birth certificate. The other may be that his race is given as "White (Caucasian). But I don't have any evidence for that last conjecture.

30 posted on 08/01/2009 12:06:50 PM PDT by x
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To: x

the number of anomolies is immense. for example, last summer the crucial piece of evidence that obama was born in hawaii was a newspaper clipping that came out in july.

Its since come out that every piece of information on the clipping wasn’t true. The clipping says mr & mrs but there is no evidence that the two were married at the time — quite the contrary. the article name an address where someone else lived. there is a record for O’s father’s address—but it is elsewhere. the name of the hospital is different from the hospital named in many previous accounts. the only surviving neighbor of the residence mentioned in the newspaper clipping says there were no mixed race couples at the address next door at the time. the birth record number on obama’s short form birth certificate actually comes before the the birth record number on the baby named in the article as having been born before Obama.

there is no marriage certifate and no record of o’s parents ever actually having lived together. In dreams of my father pg 81 obama’s mother mentions the period of Obama’s birth and never actually says she was married to O’s father at the time.


31 posted on 08/01/2009 1:25:19 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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