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To: tenger

Yes. Vick was persectuted by the new castrati in the media. To be sure, I think what he did was sick and twisted, and I’d never do it......but hosting dog fights doesn’t warrant two years in prison and a ruined reputation and means to make a living. Leonard Little killed a man in a drunk driving incident and he served no jail time, and never missed an NFL game.


9 posted on 07/27/2009 9:26:24 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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Leonard Little killed a man in a drunk driving incident and he served no jail time, and never missed an NFL game.

That doesn’t lessen Vic’s crime. Vic is street crap , a lowlife with a million bucks. Let him go back to the shit hole he came from .


12 posted on 07/27/2009 9:28:34 PM PDT by sonic109
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OJ didn’t serve jail time for murder. What of it? Our system isn’t perfect. That doesn’t mean because one man gets away with murder that all those with lesser crimes shouldn’t serve jail time.

Vick deserved what he got. Little deserved more than what he got. OJ deserved punishment for that crime, that he is serving time now doesn’t lesson the lack of judgement for the other.

And where is it written that he can’t make a living outside of the NFL? Who says he has a right to a milion dollar contract. He can make a living in construction, driving a garbage truck or any number of decent paying jobs that average Americans do daily. I see no reason I should have to be in favor of being subjected to seeing this guy cheered on a football field after what he did.


20 posted on 07/27/2009 10:21:01 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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I would forgive him, recognize that he had served his time and offer him a position as apprentice tackling dummy or assistant locker room attendant.


24 posted on 07/27/2009 10:34:12 PM PDT by clintonh8r (General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you now that we need you?!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
hosting dog fights

With due respect, SLC, if Vick had merely hosted dog fights, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Vick personally tortured dogs. With his own hands. Repeatedly. Over an extended period of time.

He picked them up and slammed them repeatedly to the ground until they were dead.

He held them struggling under water until they drowned.

He hooked them up wires and electrocuted them.

Vick participated in placing 'kidnapped' local nonfighting dogs from the neighborhod or local pounds into training pits where they would be ripped to death by his dogs.

People wouldn't be so upset if he merely hosted dog fights, but Vick instead is a psychopath who personally tortured dogs.

Also, he didn't just host fights, he spent a fortune having buildings built for training, painting them black, installing flat-black-painted fences to hide the training (killing) facilities.

All that said:

He's done his time. He shouldn't be banned from the NFL. Any team that wants to hire him should be allowed to do so.

I don't know all of the facts, but it sounds like Leonard Little should have received substantially greater punishment than he received.

Comparing Vick and Little:

Little killed a human. I consider that much worse than killing a dog. If Vick had once killed a dog in a drunk driving accident, then we'd be comparing apples and apples and could say that Little clearly deserved a greater penalty.

In this case, Little committed one offense. Vick committed many, many offenses.

Little's offense was an accident. Vick's offenses were intentional.

Little's offense occurred in a single moment of time. Vick's offense occurred over a period of years, demonstrating an ongoing sick and twisted mind.

The comparison between Little and Vick is between a one-time accident involving a human and an ongoing series of intentional, perverted acts which are lessened only because they involved animals.

I think a lot of teams will stay away from Vick simply because his crimes are more indicative of a twisted and dangerous mind than, say, getting drunk and committing vehicular manslaughter.

Of course, I'd lock 'em all up.

But Vick did faaaaaaaaaaarrrr more than "hosting dog fights."

33 posted on 07/28/2009 7:39:19 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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