Posted on 07/27/2009 9:18:02 PM PDT by tenger
I wouldn’t want as my QB. He is a great athlete but you need to be more than that to be a top QB in the NFL.
And to those speaking in favor of rehabilitation, let him prove it. Serving a jail sentence doesn’t mean you’ve changed at all. Just means you did the time the court sentenced you to. I’m not living someone the benefit of the doubt just because the guy was a good athlete. BTW, good athelete. NOT good QB.
You're saying he should work for MSNBC?
I would forgive him, recognize that he had served his time and offer him a position as apprentice tackling dummy or assistant locker room attendant.
You're saying he should work for MSNBC?
He'd fit in nicely! They are skilled at practicing torture. (to anyone who can stand to listen.)
He’s a great athlete but not much of a QB. I don’t see much upside unless maybe he can return kickoffs.
I’d hire him just to piss off PETA.
I’m surprised Jerry Jones hasn’t traded away Tony Romo for Vick.
LOL!
Yes. In a minute if his game skills were what they usd to be and he seemed to genuinely be over the crime thing.
Unfortunately for MV, few teams will be able to see him meeting all of those criteria. Top teams won't risk their current chemistry, and he's not likely to help an 11-win team become a 13-win team. Most of the handful of teams with QB issues have already addressed those concerns in the off-season, and nobody wants to upset the (expensive) new guy they just brought in.
Also, hiring Vick means quickly rewriting the playbook, and basically tossing many of the plays they've already worked on in camp. Only Miami and New Orleans are likely to have enough "wildcat" style plays in their current playbooks, and the Saints are not about to upset both Brees and Bush by bringing in Vick. The Phish are probably still surprised at knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs, and don't want to mess around with whatever chemistry they found last season.
Honestly, the only team that could vastly improve it’s QB situation with Vick is the Niners... and hyper-protesting ‘Frisco is probably not the place he needs to be.
With due respect, SLC, if Vick had merely hosted dog fights, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Vick personally tortured dogs. With his own hands. Repeatedly. Over an extended period of time.
He picked them up and slammed them repeatedly to the ground until they were dead.
He held them struggling under water until they drowned.
He hooked them up wires and electrocuted them.
Vick participated in placing 'kidnapped' local nonfighting dogs from the neighborhod or local pounds into training pits where they would be ripped to death by his dogs.
People wouldn't be so upset if he merely hosted dog fights, but Vick instead is a psychopath who personally tortured dogs.
Also, he didn't just host fights, he spent a fortune having buildings built for training, painting them black, installing flat-black-painted fences to hide the training (killing) facilities.
All that said:
He's done his time. He shouldn't be banned from the NFL. Any team that wants to hire him should be allowed to do so.
I don't know all of the facts, but it sounds like Leonard Little should have received substantially greater punishment than he received.
Comparing Vick and Little:
Little killed a human. I consider that much worse than killing a dog. If Vick had once killed a dog in a drunk driving accident, then we'd be comparing apples and apples and could say that Little clearly deserved a greater penalty.
In this case, Little committed one offense. Vick committed many, many offenses.
Little's offense was an accident. Vick's offenses were intentional.
Little's offense occurred in a single moment of time. Vick's offense occurred over a period of years, demonstrating an ongoing sick and twisted mind.
The comparison between Little and Vick is between a one-time accident involving a human and an ongoing series of intentional, perverted acts which are lessened only because they involved animals.
I think a lot of teams will stay away from Vick simply because his crimes are more indicative of a twisted and dangerous mind than, say, getting drunk and committing vehicular manslaughter.
Of course, I'd lock 'em all up.
But Vick did faaaaaaaaaaarrrr more than "hosting dog fights."
No need to have play. It is not like the NFL lacks in recruits.
What Michael Vick did was barbaric. Incredible the ridiculous reasons some use to defend him. Terrell Owens is among those making absurd statement such as "Unfair" to suspend him for four games and "The guy has suffered enough." Ownes is actually trying to rally support for Vick. No surprise if an investigation of Ownes might link him with dog fighting.
It is not like Vick shoplifted from K-Mart or avoided paying taxes. He tortured animals, throwing pets to the dogs to be torn apart. He did it over and over again. He did not make a "mistake," as he blatantly claim. He did it deliberately. He is a sociopath, and sociopaths do not change.
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