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To: BuckeyeTexan
It is true that Hawaii wouldn't have knowingly and intentionally issued a birth certificate for Obama if they didn't believe that he was born there. To suggest otherwise is to imply that Hawaii knowingly and intentionally issued fraudulent birth certificates

Not true, they can and apparently did, issue birth certificates for people born outside the state, and the country. BUT, those certificates would indicate the correct place of birth, or at least what the state was told was the actual place of birth.

The author's point that the state could have been lied to, and that this would be led credence by a long form (vault) birth certificate that shows a home birth, with the only signatures being that of Stanley Ann and her mother or father, or just her parents, since her signature would not have been absolutely required. She would not have even needed to be in the Islands.

151 posted on 06/22/2009 9:10:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Not true, they can and apparently did, issue birth certificates for people born outside the state, and the country.

To date I have not seen any evidence that Hawaii did so knowingly with the intent to defraud. If they were lied to, then they didn't issue a certificate knowingly. I have to stand by my previous statement until I am shown or find evidence to the contrary.

175 posted on 06/23/2009 12:47:43 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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