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My apologies for the ancient timing of this question. I've tried a topic search with no results although I'm sure this question has been asked before.
1 posted on 03/25/2009 5:29:32 PM PDT by pfflier
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I don’t know but in the movies they can do anything they want its make believe But i will ask a military pilot friend on another board for you


2 posted on 03/25/2009 5:33:09 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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I have no idea of how any of that works but just about anything however unlikely, is possible.


3 posted on 03/25/2009 5:35:57 PM PDT by yarddog
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I checked the Top Gun movie Manual and thats an affirmative.... wait Until the Angels and Demons and see the Lies they can create in that Movie!!


4 posted on 03/25/2009 5:36:00 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (The First Day of Spring had snow flurries... Damned global Warming!!)
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Here is some video of a good ejection it looks like that seat blows the canopy way out of the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV2WREn0CCE

Lucky guys didn’t even get wet!


5 posted on 03/25/2009 5:36:18 PM PDT by omega4179 (Don't spread my wealth, spread my work ethic.)
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I doubt it, but early F-104s had downward firing ejection seats so the pilot could clear the tail assembly. That, however, was mostly due to the limited performance of ejection seats at the time.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 5:39:56 PM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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Most military jets give me an ejection.


7 posted on 03/25/2009 5:40:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: pfflier
They are fail safe and the seat will not release until the canopy is gone.

It's just a movie.

8 posted on 03/25/2009 5:43:57 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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I was an AME (ejection seats and canopy maintenance mechanic) while I was in the Navy. Though I left the Navy before the F14 was introduced ... all the aircraft seats I worked on ... F9, A4 A7, F4 all had seats that were designed to go through the canopy should it be necessary. When I first saw Goose get killed in that accident my reaction was .. Bull Pucky


9 posted on 03/25/2009 5:45:20 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Zero parcus dies Nero Totus hail FUBO)
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To: pfflier

My apologies for the ancient timing of this question.


Yeah, why didn’t you post this here when the movie came out?


10 posted on 03/25/2009 5:49:38 PM PDT by kenth (Obama - One Big Ass Mistake, America)
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A lot of ejection seats have a canopy breaker on the top.

I don’t recall the sequence in the film, but I’d doubt the planets lined up to make that possible.

The F-14 seat was zero-zero, meaning sitting still it would be OK. That leads me to believe the the CADS/PADS (explosives) would have been sufficient to get that canopy outta the way.


11 posted on 03/25/2009 5:50:06 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New Obama Mantra, "Screw World Peace, I'll Buy You A Pony.")
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I think the real question is:

How did Kelly McGillis go from Amish farmer widow with no technological experience to civilian flight instructor in just one year?

12 posted on 03/25/2009 5:50:44 PM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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The ejection sequence in the movie is typical Hollyweird!

The ejection handles in the F-14 are are above the head and when the ejection is initiated by either the pilot or radar intercept operator, (RIO), the RIO goes first with the pilot following. The canopy is is jettisoned first and then the crew is ejected. Hitting the canopy was a "plot twist" just like the inverted flight within two meters from the MIG!!!

Herer is a link with photos and F-14 stats and stuff!

F-14 ejection seat

enjoy

BTW When I was stationed at Perrin AQFB in the 60s we had a Wing commander, (Full colonel), who was a cowboy. He had been written up for wearing cowboy boots while flying his F-102. The reason this was frowned upon was that should he eject he would loose his boots because the wind shear would tear those boots off his feet! I once asked him about his penchant, (we were golf buddies even thought I was just a LT), and he said that should he eject he would steer his canopy so that he wouldn't land on a cactus!

16 posted on 03/25/2009 5:56:58 PM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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Never trust what you see in a gay movie


17 posted on 03/25/2009 5:58:13 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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I don’t care what the expert’s say, the Goose is dead and Ivan flies F5’s.


22 posted on 03/25/2009 6:06:12 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: pfflier

More pertinent question: Is there an ejection seat in the Oval Office?


24 posted on 03/25/2009 6:11:09 PM PDT by beagleone
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I’m not a pilot, but have served on a carrier and discussed this with pilots in general. Apparently hitting the canopy in ejections and all sorts of ejection injuries are often experienced. It is a very violent process and best to be avoided if possible.


25 posted on 03/25/2009 6:11:58 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: pfflier

Several pilots have ejected through the canopy because the canopy ejection mechanism failed. Some of the pilots were killed, some were seriously (or permanently) injured.

In some occasions, the top of the ejection seat will shatter the canopy before the pilot hits it but, in other cases, the pilot and the ejection seat are approximately the same height and the pilot either breaks his neck puncturing the canopy or is severely injured or shredded by passing through the remains of the canopy.

It doesn’t happen a lot, but it does happen.


31 posted on 03/25/2009 6:23:47 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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The event depiction in Top Gun had actually happened at least once... IIRC

IN normal flight regimes... the relative wind pulls the canopy away as soon as it is jettisoned, clearing the ejection seat paths.

YET -- The Tomcat had a huge planform...

In a flat spin, there is a significant aerodynamic "burble" [near vacuum] area that forms above the airframe as it descends in a "frisbee" fall...

When the canopy is jettisoned during the ejection sequence, it "hesitates" in this aerodynamic burble area - until separating far enough from the aircraft to be swept away by relative wind...

When the RIO's [rear] ejection seat goes up the rails [first] -- Within normal timing of the ejection sequence...

In the "Goose" scenario of a flat spin, the seat-man [RIO] combination impacts the "hesitating" canopy assembly in the space just above the spinning aircraft... injuring the RIO [fatally for Goose].

Hope this helps...

35 posted on 03/25/2009 6:30:53 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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Talked to my fighter pilot buddy he said Yes.. it can and has happened.


36 posted on 03/25/2009 6:36:59 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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What I hate is when a gun is dropped and it shoots someone.

All modern pistols that I know of, can not fire unless the trigger is pulled. In revolvers, the firing pin is physically not in contact with the bullet when the trigger is not pulled.

I also hate it when someone throws some ammo into a fire and it goes off and kills all the bad guys. Ammo that is not chambered and explodes, usually shoots the brass cartidge in one direction while the bullet barely moves. I guess a brass cartridge could kill you but not likely.


43 posted on 03/25/2009 6:47:31 PM PDT by staytrue
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