[Obadiah]

Do you get the sense that Rove is actually clueless and yet wants to remain relevant? I really wonder if these guys actually get it. What? More Bob Dole? That's the answer? Harriet Meiers? Expand Medicare again? McCain?

Sadly, these guys still don't seem to understand that the MSM is corrupt and that RINOs stand no chance. But hey, these guys sure know how to market themselves as Svengalis.

[mek1959]

Yes, Rove, like Steele is just a republican operative hack. Steele ran with Bob Ehrlich in Maryland (a “moderate” read pro-choice candidate)

People better move away from the republican party at the national level, it's not where the action is going to be. Eventually, as this worsens, States are going to be the battlefield and you stand a much greater opportunity to influence there than at the federal level.

I have such disdain for most of them at the RNC and the RNCC. They're no different than the democrats and do NOT deserve trust. It will take them years if not decades to re-earn that.