Posted on 02/25/2009 7:05:43 AM PST by Calpernia
>>Nothing is shut down. Orly told him never to speak to her again.
This is a tantrum.>>>
Very important Post by Calpernia at #19
Calpernia, please clarify this for everyone!
You GO girl!!!!
My family thanks you!
YOU are a great American.
(But, I already knew that)
This man has done nothing but harrass and defame Orly. He does it by acting like an expert insider. He has no inside knowledge. He is competing with Pinocchio. He even proves he doesn't know who works for who by some of the nonesense I've seen him post.
On to Disneyland! We have a character!
Uff da; pinging again.
This is a tantrum.
Thank you. This didn't sound right and I thought I remembered his name (if you know what I mean).
Not trying to get in the middle and I am not an attorney. Free and I had some battles in the past too. However - the naming the military plaintiffs as John Does makes total sense and sounds like Law School Class 101.
These active duty soldiers are at risk in these cases and if she could name them as John & Jane Does then it was a smart move.
It sounds like he gave her pretty good advice and she did not take it. This is sad news.
Orly appears to be very book smart about the law but I am not sure she understands practicing the law. It sounds like she needs an EXPERIENCED attorney running her cases and calling ALL the shots. This is too important for the country.
Interesting read.
I don’t know enough law to evaluate any of this. What I do know is that this situation probably can only be resolved by a combination of publicity and legal actions. If this gentleman is willing to be a martyr for the cause, which is how I read his statement, then it might do some good in bringing the issue to wider attention and doubt about Obama. I honestly don’t know, and certainly I would never advise anyone to do this. It’s his choice.
People can say what they want to say about Leo. He is certainly someone who marches to his own drummer but he is also very bright in doing his legal research on these cases. He has mined through a lot of Scalia’s oustanding writing.
Leo is a straight shooter. He pulls no punches. I disagree with him about troops not getting involved in cases. I agree that extreme care was required with counsel by extremely experienced and competient attorneys. I have asked here is their is a retire or ex-JAG officer group who are now practicing attorneys who could help.
I think FreeMan’s suggestion to Orly that they should have been named as John Doe’s - if legally possible - was the way to go.
He was told to take a hike before the MIL suit. Don’t believe a thing he says.
You are brave, and thank you!
Lucy, thnx for the ping...
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C115.txt
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE
ACTIVITIES
Sec. 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally
-STATUTE-
(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or
influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:
(1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes
or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny,
or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or
(2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written
or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges
insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States -Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his
conviction. (b) For the purposes of this section, the
term “military or naval forces of the United States” includes the Army of the United States,
the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Navy
Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is
commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel. ]
***********************************************************
And this is what Orly allegedly said to Military.com about her knowledge of said Law:
California dentist turned attorney Orly Taitz, who has brought the lawsuit, told Military.com Tuesday that it is her “understanding that there will not be a serious consequence to his career [for his statements], but I don't know for sure.”
http://www.military.com/news/article/February-2009/officer-calls-obama-usurper-imposter-president.html?col=1186032325324
At the very least Orly owes a duty to her clients to posts said Laws on her Blog and state her understanding of said Laws.
I love the John Doe recommendation!
Maybe this will set a great precedent. I will pray for success!
If you have a ping list, please add me :)
“I love the John Doe recommendation!
Maybe this will set a great precedent. I will pray for success!”
Thanks!
Listing the Active Military as John Does and keeping their identities and communications confidential seems like a no-brainer to me.
I advised Orly accordingly but obviously Orly did not listen to me.
She needs a very competent and experienced attorney running her cases. They need to have TOTAL control of what goes on in the cases.
She is a good promoter and tireless advocate.
Hey, they ‘might’ get new plaintiffs if they are listed as john does.
Thanks for all the pings, LucyT.
Calpernia...glad to hear Orly’s case(s) have not been shut down.
Hope my praying is helping.
We need thousands and if the John Doe approach worked then you could get thousands.
While it’s in God’s hands, he does hear our prayers. I humbly hope that he will allow this secret to be revealed.
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