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To: rogernz
whats up with your anger towards the south and catholics?

the secession of the south was legitimate and the pope merely sent some kind words to the south...

I'm a southerner whose family has been in the south many generations and that's why I've got no use for the Confederacy. They did much evil to my part of the world. It helps to realize that the South is not the Confederacy and vice-versa. I think a lot of southerners get them mixed up.

I don't think there was anything legit about the the secession, not constitutionally, nor in the hasty rabble-rousing by which it was promoted and not in the political dirty tricks resorted to when all else failed. It proved its illegitimacy when it failed to sustain itself in the trial by fire.

Why is it hatred of Catholics to suggest that Pius had a misconception about the CSA?

18 posted on 02/02/2009 7:27:30 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“I’m a southerner whose family has been in the south many generations and that’s why I’ve got no use for the Confederacy. They did much evil to my part of the world. It helps to realize that the South is not the Confederacy and vice-versa. I think a lot of southerners get them mixed up.

I don’t think there was anything legit about the the secession, not constitutionally, nor in the hasty rabble-rousing by which it was promoted and not in the political dirty tricks resorted to when all else failed. It proved its illegitimacy when it failed to sustain itself in the trial by fire. “

As a fellow southerner who has had family in the south on both sides of the family since before the revolution I fully endorse your post. I have little use for lost causers. The confederacy is nothing to be proud of and was never anything noble. At its base they left the union over slavery. People like to argue about states right but its pretty clear which right was the paramount one when it came to the decision to leave the union. I’m glad the confederacy lost and see Davis and his ilk as little more than traitors.


21 posted on 02/02/2009 7:32:10 PM PST by DemonDeac
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Why is it hatred of Catholics to suggest that Pius had a misconception about the CSA?

sorry, didn't mean to accuse you of that.
25 posted on 02/02/2009 7:54:48 PM PST by rogernz
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I don't think there was anything legit about the the secession,
LOL, the ordinances of secession were passed by the legislatures of the eleven states. They were legit.
not constitutionally,
Except that it was taught in the schools, including at West Point, as part and parcel of the Constitution. The reason Jeff Davis was never tried is the courts of that time would have acquitted him.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
This was the view of the Founding Fathers.
and not in the political dirty tricks resorted to when all else failed.
Like Lincoln ARRESTING the entire government of Maryland to keep the government from acting?
It proved its illegitimacy when it failed to sustain itself in the trial by fire.
How medievel, might makes right. Sad.
82 posted on 02/13/2009 6:09:51 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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