[metmom]

I’m not *bashing* science for not taking the supernatural into account.

Scientists take the supernatural into account when they decide on methodical naturalism. They take it into account when they make assumptions about it before they even proceed with the experiments. By deciding beforehand that there is no supernatural influence, they’ve made an assumption about it and are taking it into account.

How can truth enter into it? You have people in the scientific world saying that truth is not a part of science and then you whine about truth not mattering.

The problem arises when scientists, as scientists, speak on the validity of reality that they are not qualified to speak on.

[DevNet]

Baghdad Bob is that you?

[betty boop]

Scientists take the supernatural into account when they decide on methodical naturalism. They take it into account when they make assumptions about it before they even proceed with the experiments.

They also take the supernatural into account every time they think, when they apply physical laws, when they reason, when they have recourse to logic, to mathematics. None of these things are "observables." But we humans couldn't get along without them.

[YHAOS]

“Scientists take the supernatural into account when they decide on methodical naturalism. They take it into account when they make assumptions about it before they even proceed with the experiments. By deciding beforehand that there is no supernatural influence, they’ve made an assumption about it and are taking it into account.”

And Scientists take it into account again when they declare that no god exists (see Richard Dawkins), citing science as the cause and the source for their conclusion. Then The Masters of the Universe compound their sin of mixing science with theology by complaining that they are being falsely accused of “Scientism”! That’s what they get when they use science to justify theological conclusions.

[Alamo-Girl]

Scientists take the supernatural into account when they decide on methodical naturalism. They take it into account when they make assumptions about it before they even proceed with the experiments. By deciding beforehand that there is no supernatural influence, they’ve made an assumption about it and are taking it into account.

Indeed.