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To: js1138; Alamo-Girl

What *facts*?

Should Scripture be interpreted in light of the current interpretation of the data which is more likely to be wrong than not?

That still doesn’t qualify *science* as an accurate tool to interpret Scripture with.


427 posted on 01/05/2009 11:50:46 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
What *facts*?

St. Augustine spoke of the harm caused to religion by people who insisted the earth is flat.

In time, the church was damaging religion by insisting the sun revolves around the earth. Took centuries to recover from that fiasco.

430 posted on 01/05/2009 11:59:14 AM PST by js1138
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To: metmom; betty boop; js1138; hosepipe; TXnMA; MHGinTN; Dr. Eckleburg
Indeed, science is not a tool for interpreting Scripture.

Most importantly, God is Spirit. He is not within the domain of science which limits itself by methodological naturalism to that which is natural. Nature is but a subset of "all that there is" - and "all that there is" is God's creation, it is not God the Creator of it.

God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth. – John 4:24

Christians are not in the flesh but in the Spirit and so are able to receive the words of God:

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

Man is not the measure of God.

Moreover, it is not enough to know the Scripture - the text - one must know the power of God to receive the words of God. One must have "ears to hear." Jesus Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. – Matthew 22:29

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. - I Corinthians 1:24

And the reason is this, the words of God are spirit and life. The words of men are neither spirit nor life.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. – I Corinthians 2:13-14

That is why the people below who were physically hearing Jesus (pressure waves, sound) could not spiritually hear Him:

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. – John 8:43

Simply put, God is not a hypothesis. He lives. He has a Name. His Name is I AM. Christians know this because they know Him - not fully of course, but we recognize Him and His words. He lives in us and we live in Him.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

To God be the glory!

437 posted on 01/05/2009 12:23:23 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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