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To: DieHard the Hunter; Just mythoughts
You quoted my claim to being a practising Christian and then called it into question, based upon an anecdote about my dog on a thread about eugenics.

[DieHard the Hunter] "I don’t know much about Eugenics, haven’t seen much presented on it before... Why is Eugenics discredited?"

[ECO] "Because there is no gene for prostitution, "hereditary pauperism" or "feeble-mindedness". And the studies (e.g., Jukes) were fraudulent."

[DieHard the Hunter] "If I want a female German Shepherd who is good with children, overtly affectionate, agile, medium-sized, good around guns and loud noises, strong bite and obedient, I can go to a breeder and have that precise dog produced. I know that for a fact, because I did exactly that, and she’s licking my face right now... a breeder can select a male with a bloodline that produces some of these characteristics, and a female whose bloodline supplies the rest, cross the two and bingo! There is the dog, custom-built to order.... So why not people?"

[ECO] "Because people are not dogs"

[DieHard the Hunter] "I guess where I am getting to in my learning on this thread is that Eugenics isn’t “bad science” or “false science” that has been proven scientifically to be false"

[ECO] "Hereditary pauperism"? Of course it is bad science. Ellis's article should be illustration enough."

[DieHard the Hunter to bronxboy] "I am not aware of being “flippant” about eugenics. I knew next to nothing about it, so I asked questions and drew conclusions."

[DieHard the Hunter] "But I haven’t seen any compelling evidence to suggest that humans cannot be bred like dogs... Therefore, Darwin is probably correct."

The first point: these exchanges should be sufficient to rebut any pretence to scientific rigor on your part, should you try to mount that pedestal against someone in this thread.

Why does it call into question your "I AM a Christian"? Because you believe man is made in the image of dog.

404 posted on 01/05/2009 7:38:33 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

> The first point: these exchanges should be sufficient to rebut any pretence to scientific rigor on your part, should you try to mount that pedestal against someone in this thread.

That doesn’t follow. I asked questions, I received answers, I drew conclusions. All on a branch of science I was unfamiliar with: applying animal husbandry concepts to human beings.

The conclusion I arrived at is that while it might be technically possible, it isn’t morally supportable.

How any of that gives you license to climb on a high horse about my status as a practising Christian is less obvious.

> Why does it call into question your “I AM a Christian”? Because you believe man is made in the image of dog.

Show me where I said that. What a ludicrous thing to say! No wonder Atheists laugh at Christians: people like you give us all a bad name.

I’ve heard your best shot now. It was pathetic and unconvincing. We’re done.


405 posted on 01/05/2009 7:47:14 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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