I really don’t see why there can’t be one major knockout, drag-out thread for the crevo fight. I believe this was attempted before, and I’m sure it’s difficult, but it seems to me to make so much more sense than having every science or religion thread that’s even tangentially related to the topic devolve into the same old crap. Only a few people on each side are really fighting it, and with all due respect to all involved, I think a lot of this is about ego more than anything else.
And honestly, if I’m reading about the ‘discovery’ of a new supernova, I don’t want to read a religion vs. science debate about stellar evolution. And if I’m reading about someone’s experience of a miracle, I’d rather not read sarcastic remarks from atheists (which are already prohibited if the religious thread is labeled appropriately) or yet another debate over the existence of miracles. I’m far from alone in this desire.
Just create an almost NHB thread and be done with it. No one is changing minds here.
[[Only a few people on each side are really fighting it, and with all due respect to all involved, I think a lot of this is about ego more than anything else.]]
Then you are woefully mistaken- this is abotu truth- plain and simple-
[[And honestly, if I’m reading about the ‘discovery’ of a new supernova, I don’t want to read a religion vs. science debate about stellar evolution.]]
Despite hte fact that they contain objective truths? Interesting.
[[Only a few people on each side are really fighting it, and with all due respect to all involved, I think a lot of this is about ego more than anything else.]]
To be more precise- this is again, not abotu Ego on my part, but about objective truths- Coyoteman knows that most people simply take Macroevolution at face value, apparently because the majority of secular scientists have subscribed to the hypothesis, despite a lack of evidence, and he knows that most people will simply take his false accusations at face value, never bothering to look up the actual facts of the false claims. I’ve decided that objective truths have taken a back seat for far too long, and those hwo hold to objective truths have had to endure false accusations and ridicule for far too long, and that it’s time that the objective TRUTH be presented for anyone that cares to take a few minutes out of their time to investigate it for themselves.
[[Do you believe that “evolutionism” and “creationism” have been arrived at by use of different methods?]]
If you know my posts at all, then you know that I do- ID uses objective investigations that don’t violate biological truths, while Macroevolution uses subjective interpretations and subjective assumptions, and use far reaching predrawn conclusions that violate biological principles.
[[If you do, then what’s your problem with my suggestion?]]
Why should biological realities be relegated to religious threads only? Look- when people like Coyote make false claims, and contually deride ID in science threads- then I’ll respond with the FACTS and the TRUTH- which anyone can verify by following hte links I post and seeign just exactly how Macroevolution is being exposed for the intentional fraud that it is.
I don’t post opinions I post the scientific facts that do the refuting- I have no stake in this other than to simply post those facts and to expose the false accusations and false claims of Macroevolution- the facts are what stand- not me.