Posted on 12/13/2008 3:17:20 PM PST by mainestategop
I don’t care. I’m not going to the trouble to only listen to music made by small l libertarians. My playlist would be really short.
Mediocrity coached and pulled along by the ever humble Mr Beatles himself George Martin.
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You are missing the point. It is not a question of finding entertainers with whom you are in lockstep agreement. It is whether or not you will support a known enemy with your dollars.
For example, I don't require that singers or other entertainers say publicly that they are pro-life. If they are pro-abortion, I don't care--as long as they "shut up and sing," and don't spew their leftist tripe. If a performer is outspokenly pro-abortion and I know it, I become unable to enjoy their work, partly because by buying their work, I will be indirectly supporting a cause I find amoral.
Of course, if one were a moderate and not a conservative, I could see that there might not be any particular viewpoint, left or right, that would be considered offensive.
Ok, now I’m not a conservative because of the music I listen to. Discussion over. Have a good weekend.
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No, I'm not saying you are not a good conservative because of the music you listen to. I don't need to, as you have admitted on this thread that you are a "small 'l' libertarian."
Small "l" libertarian (or, for that matter, big "L" Libertarian) is simply not the same thing as conservative. It is a distinction with a difference.
Despite our political disagreements, I also wish you a pleasant weekend.
It’s complicated to say what the American heritage is, because it’s not a native country of one ethnicity, but a gathering place for peoples from elsewhere. The United States of America is as much an idea as it is a geographical location.
Harrison had an idea of forming a group made up from his friends. It was him, Jeff Lynne {from ELO}, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, and Roy Orbison, who made up the group The Traveling Wilburys. If nobody's heard their music it's worth listening to especially "The End of The Line".
When someone tells me they like the song "Imagine" I usually show them the words which shocks them when they actually read them. Lennon wasted his talent. His fame went to his head and stayed there thus becoming an attention seeking freak. Yoko's singing reminds me of Morticia on the Addams Family. Kinda like fingers on a chalk board. No chalk board should be tortured like that :>}
George Harrison was always my favorite. He had such heart, which Lennon seemed so cold and cynical. Never liked him, even as a kid.
I loved the Traveling Wilburys, especially the video with the empty rocking chair, to remember Roy Orbison ...
Yea despite the things they done when they were younger Harrison seems to be the one who grew up. I saw the train video for End of the line when it first came out in the 80’s. I had a VHS copy of it taken off a C-Band satellite and it was mono :>{ I got it when a couple of years ago they finally released the DVD. Some good insight as to George’s character there. A 180 from Lenon’s that’s for certain. The song Handle with care is pretty much proof where a lot of The Beatles sound as far as the music goes actually came from :>}
paul wrote helter skelter. it was a much slower tune. a version is available on anthology. while recording the WA, paul went to lunch and heard an interview with pete townsend - the child porn clown from the Who. pete said that something they were doing (or had released) was going to the most raucous rock and roll song ever made (something to that effect). so paul went back to the studio and made helter skelter into the released version to out-do the Who.
Most of his stuff didn’t get any airplay until after he was dead.
have you listened to the bootleg from the twickenham and abbey road sessions leading to the let it be album? lots of george’s all things must pass stuff. he was writing a lot, but complained that john and paul refused to help him as they did each other.
people can have any opinion they want of the copyright-royalty crowd - from musicians to actors, they all get more money and therefore publicity than (generally) their intellect can handle.
i guess you had to grow up in the ‘60s and ‘70s to appreciate the impact of The Beatles and their solo careers. it was well beyond the individual songs.
yes, john had an uncontrolled mouth sometimes. yes, as i grew up myself i became rather appalled at the Imagine lyrics, and now find them rather hopeless and sad.
but do you really think we took Bag Peace seriously? it was a time of - “holy s——! look what’s he’s doing now! so funny.” the people that took that stuff seriously at the time were no different than the algore disciples now. but then - if you were there - remember when john and paul went into the studio (just the two of them) and recorded the ballad of john and yoko in an afternoon? what a great single.
i remember the feeling of wide-open innocence walking through my grandfather’s field with mother nature’s son in my head.
it was just a time when we were kids and growing up. i don’t get avenged sevenfold, but my daughter tries to tell me to listen to the words. it is her time, her music.
it is easy to criticize The Beatles and the individual members. but really, trying to respectful, that is staring at some trees and missing the forest. everyone and everything ever in this world (except Christ) is capable of receiving appropriate criticism.
i am sorry for the way john died. being murdered just isn’t the way to go out. i am sorry his son never really knew him - and even more sorry for what he seems to have become under yoko’s hand. i am sorry that julian had a fatherless childhood and overcompensated later in life. but they were and are just people. we know a lot about them because of the copyright-royalty world in which we live.
listen to “old dirt road” and realize that all the dude did was write music. nothing more. he used his talents to do his job just like another person standing in front of a lathe.
>>But that is, without a doubt, the dopiest statement I have ever seen on FR.<<
I don’t like his songs, what I do like by the Beatles was written by McCartney.
He was pumped up my a generation, doped up. “I am the Walrus” and “Sgt Pepper” are not art. In a hundred years, you’ll have to fight to find the man’s name in a book.
>>i guess you had to grow up in the ‘60s and ‘70s to appreciate the impact of The Beatles and their solo careers. it was well beyond the individual songs.<<
I did.
Every generation has it’s “great” artists.
People swooned over Sinatra, Elvis, hell even Al Jolson.
The Beatles are no different. When this generation dies out, Lennon falls on the ash heep.
OK, Mom, steak dinner bet, hundred years from now.
‘course, there may be no steak then.
heck, there may be no netmilsmom and Bunkasaurus ;-)
>>heck, there may be no netmilsmom and Bunkasaurus ;-)<<
Truth be told!
But let’s get real, how much to do know about Harold Arlen?
John Lennon will fall to the same place in history (maybe). Only the babyboomers keep him on Mount Olympus.
“...about Harold Arlen?”....very little.
I looked at a list of his hits in Wiki...none of them big faves of mine...Over the Rainbow, maybe.
Never cared much for his partner, Johnny Mercer.
You big H.A. fan?
In that time period my man is Cole Porter.
(I like Paul Mac, too. Who doesn’t?)
>>In that time period my man is Cole Porter.<<
Oooo! Me too!
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