The Second American Revolution

www.clipser.com ^ | December 7 , 2008 | MisterHappy ( Clipser user )

[mosquewatch]

"Thomas Paine, author of "Common Sense," returns to modern times to plea for a second revolution to take back America, Now!"

[MileHi]

Typos... crap

[xero]

Can ya pull a trigger?

[STONEWALLS]

....oh there’ll be war all right....and it will be race war....wars of secession and partition are a global reality....in due course they will occur here too.

[Dead Corpse]

I read an article recently about how some kids are growing up "feral". While reading the difference between "natural state" psychology and current accepted norms, it struck me that a second Revolution may well be impossible for at least 2-3 more Generations.

Here's why:

We've domesticated ourselves.

That simple. The Founders were more "feral" and didn't rely so heavily on positive cooperation with others just to make it through a day. We've been "trained" to defer to authority, to not take the Law into our own hands, and to "go along to get along". After all, we can't all be "Dirty Harry"/"John Rambo" now can we?

Well... yeah we can. That whole "feral" thing is the very basis of FREEDOM. Freedom of action limited only by the equal Rights of others. We've allowed ourselves to see as "normal" all those other laws that are just "for our own good", but that have no place in a society based on individual Rights and responsibilities.

Back then, a legislator/litigator would have been SHOT DEAD for attempting even half of what we take as "normal" in politics today. We've come to rely on a system, that is designed to further perpetuate itself, to fix itself. This is patently absurd, but we've all heard the cries of "vote 'em out", "let the Courts handle it", etc... If any of that could actually work, it already would have.

We've trained ourselves to the collar and the leash and are now whining in our kennel about the unfairness of it all.

[oblomov]

>>I fear we’ve already become balkanized, but in ideology rather than geography.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

[oblomov]

“The disorganized majority is ruled by the organized minority.” - Gaetano Mosca

Time for us to get organized.

[MileHi]

Lot of truth in that. But them some of us are getting a little older. I am not afraid to die. Therefore, I will only be pushed so far.

[Dead Corpse]

I have kids to think of. It's their future I'd be fighting for.

To not have my kids grow up as slaves/drones...

Yeah... it'd be worth it.

[ElayneJ]

Yeah, I’m not so sure. At one time I thought my liberal friends and I had the same basic ideals - love of country, wish to see everyone treated equally, etc. - but now I just don’t know.

[oblomov]

Only the rhetoric of civic leadership is the same between conservatives and leftists. Both the goals and means are very different.

When liberals fret about “balkanization”, it is because they perceive an unwillingness on the part of the productive class to fund their welfare state inanities. They think that by having a dirigiste “unity” of opinion, that conservatives can be brought to heel and will comply. But conservatives are used to being out of step with the rest of the world. Conservatives do not conform by their nature, and (unlike those on the left) it is not a mere poetic gesture or calculated attempt to provoke authority.

[archy]

And no amount of Pollyana-speak is going to change the Sheep.”

Playing the game by our adversaries methods instead of their rules will change a few. Get yourself a new shirt, that defeatest one made out of hair must itch like crazy.

[stevio]

Everybody here should remember that massive social changes, such as revolutions, whether violent or not, are usually brought about by a minority of the population.

Exactly. Look at what the homos have accomplished.

[Old Sarge]

Gee, and it only took you three days to sound out the words.

[archy]

Gee, and it only took you three days to sound out the words.

An occupational hazard for those of us of the newspaper biz who don't have to speak that which we write. And for the last couple of days, I've been busy helping take out the garbage.

http://www.citizenu.org/uploaded_images/BlagojevichRod030319-726560.jpg

[campaignPete R-CT]

fr,
in response to another thread that was locked:
Thomas is trying revive the comatose Commerce Clause
rarely gets even 4 votes of 9.
Lopez case, rare victory 5-4 in 1995

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Lopez

it is a long-term project. incremental changes is the plan.