Posted on 12/07/2008 7:58:38 AM PST by malkee
When I first started writing on the constitutional eligibility of both Barack Obama and John McCain after the conventions, I thought the issue would be quickly silenced. Forgive my chuckling and a cheer as the forces of the Constitution continue their valiant charge for that "damn piece of paper."
Since Obama is going to Hawaii for Christmas - I suspect he may take care of the problem then.
Is he finally going to bury grandma??
This is the third time over in just a few months. How often did he go before the BC got to be an issue? Why are they not spending Christmas in that fancy new house of theirs?
If he comes back and then waves around a pristine BC I am damn sure going to wonder. However, it still does not resolve the issue of his what, British Citizenship? Or is it the five year requirement for his mom?
> If he comes back and then waves around a pristine BC I am damn sure going to wonder. However, it still does not resolve the issue of his what, British Citizenship? Or is it the five year requirement for his mom?
Has anybody considered trying to apply to the British Home Office for a copy of his British Birth Certificate (if it exists)?
They may have different rules than the US does.
I read some time ago that the Obamas don’t even celebrate Christmas. They don’t give their daughters gifts, don’t celebrate as normal Christians do. I suspect they’re going to Hawaii to hide that fact from their adoring public who thinks they’re normal. Granny Dunham was already cremated, but they will probably pretend to mourn her passing. He’s going to create more birth certificates or pay off more people—who knows? He’s an illegitimate candidate.
No, I think it works like NASCAR. If the first place winner is disqualified it automatically goes to the second place winner. ;)
So if I read this right, if Obama is declared unqualified after the Electoral College votes, both Obama and Biden are tossed and the congress (Pelosi) will select a qualified president. If Obama is found unqualified before the Electoral College votes and the Electoral College votes switches their votes to McCain/Palin, they win. If the Electoral College votes does not switch votes, those votes are tossed and it goes back to Congress.
Or dig up his BC !!
What bothers me is that nobody seems to know the real truth .. and maybe even Obama doesn’t know the whole truth .. or is the problem because the father Obama claims to have is not the “father” on his BC .. or is there ANY father listed on his BC ..??
So many questions .. and nobody in the media will actually investigate the information .. and even if they did .. I believe it would be covered-up and/or hidden.
I cannot pretend I want to experience the chaos that would be created if it were determined that Obama is not a native born person.
That prospect really scares me .. but I don’t think we should hide the information if we find out the truth - even if the democrats and the blacks will crucify us if we come up with something they don’t like.
When Obama introduced Biden as his VP candidate he called Biden, “the next president of the United States” before he corrected himself.
He must offer proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a natural born citizen. He has been legally challenged. Rather than produce the requisite documents, he has lawyered up like a Mafia Don. He has spent over 800 G’s on three legal firms, and is thumbing his nose at many of the American people’s demands that he satisfy a basic constitutional requirement. He has insulted our intelligence by proffering an obviously fraudulent Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth as proof of his natural born status, despite the criminal ramifications of such actions.
Three presidential candidates have had their constitutional eligibility challenged in the 20th and 21st centuries, Barry Goldwater, George Romney, and John McCain. All of these men produced the requested documentation for legal analysis. None of them hid behind surrogates and all of them at one time or other addressed the issue in public. None of them relied exclusively on surrogates to speak for them on this matter.
Far more damage will be done to the country if a usurper is allowed to take office, subsequently shown to be ineligible after having signed legislation, initiated ratified treaties, made appointments to US offices, ordered troop movements, only to have all those official acts reversed after the truth comes out. I would rather deal with the riots attendant on keeping him out of office than face a civil war. That war will not be a War Between the States like our affair in the mid 19th Century, where one faction wanted to secede and leave the Fed Gov intact. Both sides, with the exception of Guerrilla skirmishes in the border states, faced off using Napoleonic era tactics with clearly delineated borders. This conflict would be an intermingled inter and intrastate struggle over who controls the government. It would be ugly and probably brutal beyond belief. We must do all that we can do NOW to prevent such a hideous possibility.
If it is apparent beyond reasonable doubt that Hussein is not a natural born citizen, then we must look to any and all legal and constitutional actions to deny him the presidency. If the constitution of the US is not worth defending against mob rule, then nothing is. If we wish to preserve the republic, than we had best let the chips fall, and then sort them out. By whatever means necessary.
We who value the constitution will not allow the moral emphasis of this argument to be inverted. All this speculation, correct or not; has come about because this lying crypto-marxist thug from the most corrupt environs of leftist Chicago sewer politics has ascended to POTUS-elect status with the willing acquiescence of the MSM. The MSM was hell-bent on concealing this usurper’s background because they wanted him to be elected. Now, in a classic case of blame the messenger, those of us who believe in the constitution are being reviled for insisting that a POTUS comply with a basic requirement that most of us unhesitatingly conform with when seeking a driver’s license.
Ask yourself, what kind of narcissistic, self absorbed individual rends the public tranquility like this when the remedy is so easy for a legitimate candidate? The arrogance and effrontery of this man is breathtaking. The founders knew that they were not natural born citizens, so they had to include language in Art II Sec 1 that exempted THEM. Does this fraud think that he is better than Washington, Madison, Adams, and Jefferson in that sense? Apparently he does, and with the acquiescence of enough people, he will succeed in usurping and corrupting the Executive Branch of government. This situation presents the very real possibility of impelling this great nation beyond a constitutional crisis toward a civil war.
I wish to recall you to a time when a group of men, who were attempting to bring a new vision of liberty and democratic republican governance to the world vowed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to that task. Yes, the group of men who were the Founders. I believe that Barack Obama is a unique domestic threat to the republic that they founded that I have never seen before in my lifetime. A man who has stated his contempt for a “fundamentally flawed” constitution. I believe that he is prepared, by dint of education and inclination, to destroy it. He could be our version of Julius Ceasar, a precursor to the end of our Republic, unless we oppose vigorously oppose him NOW before he gets into office. (If he can prove his natural born status, then I will accept that and oppose him on policy being CERTAIN that I will have to owing to his already professed world view)
Finally, consider the implications of a man who would undertake these devious machinations to knowingly assume an office that he has no constitutional claim to, and than to see this same counterfeit president elect take an oath to defend that constitution. I believe that such a man would be willing to impose ANY sort or despotism or tyranny upon us to retain power.
When Obama introduced Biden as his VP candidate he called Biden, “the next president of the United States” before he corrected himself.
That’s IT. That is Proof Obama realizes he will Not be a legitimate president, the REAL president will be Biden. I wonder if Obama will have Biden countersign all his bills and orders, just to make sure.
I’ll check youtube later to see if it’s posted....
"Let me introduce to you the next president, [slight pause] the next vice president of the United States of America, Joe Biden."
Obama may have made a mental slip up by saying what he believed what may come true.
no, mccain would be president.
Your statement:
“If the constitution of the US is not worth defending against mob rule, then nothing is. If we wish to preserve the republic, than we had best let the chips fall, and then sort them out. By whatever means necessary.”
.. says it all.
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