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To: STARWISE
Way back when, Americans used to vote for the Pres. and Vice-Pres. separately, until they elected two bitter adversaries to both posts who nearly killed each other. So, the law was changed,

Close. Americans, or their state legislatures, voted for a single slate of electors. The electors then voted for two cannidates, both for the President. The runner up became Vice President.

Doesn't anyone bother to go read the source documents? In this case: From Art. II Section 1, Constitution for the United States:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President [Modified by Amendment XII].

Note it was not an ordinary law that was changed, it was the Constitution Itself that was changed, via the 12th and later the 20th amendment.

203 posted on 11/23/2008 8:29:43 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Well, what we have in the 20th is an attempt to deal with a qualified President Elect. A fraudulent contract is no contract, a person elected to office by fraud has no partial claim to process towards the enforcement of any part of the contract.

Obama is a fraud. His election is fraudulent. I hold those as facts due to my own determinations about his actions in regards this "natural born" issue.

Neither Obama nor Biden, imo, are due any regard under the 20th, or the rest of the Constitution, except to be disqualifuied, and for criminal action to be taken against Obama and his accomplices.

It may be that McCain is found not to 'natural born', yet his election was not fraudulent, therefore if it is that if he is ruled ineligible by way of not being "natural born" I would hope that Sarah Palin would be sworn in as the 44th President of the United States of America.

206 posted on 11/23/2008 9:06:04 AM PST by bvw
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