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Tired of The Crash?
Market-Ticker ^ | 11/20/08 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 11/21/2008 8:47:36 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Tired of The Crash?

The market and economy will not stop falling apart until:

Paulson is fired and his policies cease.

We have transparency in balance sheets - for every firm on the exchange. No exceptions. All Level 3 asset mark models and assets identified - period.

Bernanke withdraws all his alphabet soup programs or is removed from office and his successor does, and the "crowding out" in the credit markets ceases.

Its that simple, and all three must happen before we will see any sort of sustainable bottom put in.

This doesn't mean we can't have "rip your face off" rallies - we both can and will.

But the market and economy will not bottom until the three things above are done, and the only way that is going to happen is when you make it happen.

That's right. Your 401k is a 201k (and will soon be a 41k) because you (collectively) sat on your butts last October when I started running petitions and because we have managed to garner only 50-odd people at protests.

There should be hundreds of thousands.

There should be general strikes - people who simply refuse to go to work, en-masse, across the nation.

There should have not been one Congressman or woman who voted for the bailout returned to office.

Bottom line: You have and are consenting to this economic depression - and make no mistake, that is exactly what the credit markets are saying we are entering right now.

Remember that more than a year ago Subprime Mortgage Bonds forecast a total meltdown in that industry, and that nearly all of the companies in that space would go bankrupt. We were told that this sort of "Armageddon" scenario would not and could not occur, and that the credit market was playing "histrionics". A number of so-called "smart money" investors (Wilbur Ross anyone?) stepped in and bought these supposedly-undervalued instruments - and promptly got slaughtered when the actual performance was worse than the credit markets were forecasting.

The credit market was right and those who said it couldn't happen were wrong.

Now the credit market is saying that we are going to have more defaults than happened during The Great Depression. That is, it is forecasting a Greater Depression that worse than the 1930s. The TNX (10 year yield) is threatening to break three percent, down another 6% (!) this morning to 3.16%. The bottom going back as far as my charts extend is 3.07%. Almost there.

The 13 Week T-Bill (IRX) stands at 0.1%, which is for all intents and purposes zero. The Effective Fed Funds trading rate has been between 0.2 and 0.3% since the last putative rate cut to 1% - that is, effectively zero.

Corporate AAA commercial mortgage spreads are at extreme wides, standing at over 700 bips; added to reference this means that super senior AAA commercial mortgages now yield more than 10%. Given the level of credit enhancement in these deals this forecasts default rates of more than thirty percent in this space. Similar extreme spreads are found among both the "high grade" and "high yield" corporate bond markets.

The credit market is telling you that we are headed for an S&P 500 trading at three hundred and a DOW at under three thousand. That we are headed for unemployment north of 20% on the U6 (broad) measure, and GDP contraction of twenty percent cumulatively from top to bottom.

That's one person in five in the US without a job, deflation of 20% cumulatively or more in prices, over 2 million businesses going bankrupt in the next three years, and literal starvation and privation - all across America. No part of this nation will be spared.

The market callers are all saying all this is impossible.

Even though every thing the credit market has forecast thus far since this problem began has been not only proved correct but conservative; that is, if you bought believing that it would not be as bad as the credit market is forecasting, you have had your head handed to you.

So who are you going to listen to?

Ben Bernanke ("we won't have a recession") and Hank Paulson ("the economy is fundamentally strong"), along with all the market "callers" on CNBC, who have been wrong every single time for more than 18 months?

Or the credit market which has been right 100% of the time thus far since this crisis began?

Welcome to The Greater Depression, and make sure you remember that the blame for this event belongs to Congress, Henry Paulson, Ben Bernanke, and of course..... you, since you have failed to insist and force your government (and yes, its your government, just as its my government) to stop these clowns.

We will get out of this when - and only when - you stop believing that you can "have a pony", "a chicken in every pot", "economic stimulus", and "free credit for everyone."

Only when we the people (collectively) are either all bankrupted or we come to our senses and demand that the fraudsters be locked up and the bad debt purged by default will the system clear and both the economy and market find a sustainable bottom.

Those are the only two choices folks, and right now, you're choosing bankruptcy and Depression for all.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bailout; crash; depression; transparency
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To: dalereed

If you are so well situated then buy the 12$ book and pick up a few more pointers.....

But I do like your attitude and I hope you speak good Spanish


21 posted on 11/21/2008 9:28:01 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

...but perhaps Larry Summers will be the real power behind the throne. Sounds like LS is planning to institute a program of government drunken sailor spending combined with token tax cuts and likely huge increases on the rich in order to keep the government fiscally sound.


22 posted on 11/21/2008 11:37:57 PM PST by dr_who
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To: B4Ranch

Take a gander at this one...


23 posted on 11/22/2008 1:43:39 AM PST by JDoutrider (Heading to Galt's Gulch... It is time.)
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To: JDoutrider

>>This doesn’t mean we can’t have “rip your face off” rallies - we both can and will.<<

I can’t wait!


24 posted on 11/22/2008 6:28:24 AM PST by B4Ranch (("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
There should have not been one Congressman or woman who voted for the bailout returned to office.

Yet he voted for Obama.

25 posted on 11/23/2008 5:26:02 AM PST by ovrtaxt (It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it. ~Henry Allen)
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To: djf
During the 30’s, something like 80 percent of the people were rural. Now, the situation is almost the opposite. City folk don’t grow beans.

This would be a nightmare scenario.

earthbox.com

26 posted on 11/23/2008 5:31:57 AM PST by ovrtaxt (It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it. ~Henry Allen)
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