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"Something of Historic Proportion is Happening" (history repeating ?)
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 11-13-08

Posted on 11/13/2008 6:50:52 PM PST by STARWISE

A reader comment over at Dollard's place nails it.

(http://patdollard.com/)

Plain and simple .... and true. This is what I see. I wish I had written it. (hat tip mg)

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I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life.

I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.

Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms.

That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders.

Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving.

Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.

Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman.

Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?.

We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke

I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about)–the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.

It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska.

All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary

(Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)

Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.

Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life.

In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.

And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.

What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises.

Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression].

Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think.

How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex.

He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media–did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of.

When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don’t forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years–a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency–it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course.

The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe–and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; change; financialcrisis; mandatoryservice; marxist; obama; obamatruthfile; radicals; socialist; thecomingdarkness
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To: TheRiverNile
"America, return to Christ...I beg you."

Amen.

161 posted on 11/14/2008 12:16:24 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: Aliska
Yes, and I don't have my presidents very straight but could have started under Reagan, Carter???. The dates for them are in that timeframe. He was a Democrat and most of the time I knew him goes way back to the early 60's, but is an ardent Republican now, very patriotic, and spends much time helping disabled veterans because he knows how to cut through red tape.

Started? No, it started long ago, long before any of us now were even born. We just have the unfortunate destiny to be close to the final phase. The reason so many cannot see where this is leading is that they have been deliberately blinded, by an apparatus which has been in place for almost a century, constantly tuning, tweaking, and refining its technique in the art of misdirection.

When did it begin? Nobody can truly say with any certainty, but the first *major* event came in December of 1913, when the abomination known as the Federal Reserve was created, and Congress totally abdicated its responsibility under the Constitution, giving it, and untold power, to a band of ruthless, power-hungry bankers, who had a dream of "one world government". It has been all downhill from there.

We, and by that, I don't mean just the United States, but the entire world, started down that slippery slope which was meant to lead to a global despotism then, and we have just about hit the bottom of said slope...

the infowarrior

162 posted on 11/14/2008 12:37:20 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: MayflowerMadam
“God will bring us back from this,...”

Not necessarily. I pray you’re right, but God will take only so much before He’s had enough. America has turned its back on Him for so long now!

If you've read, and believed your Scriptures, then yes, He will "bring us back", but perhaps *not* in the way many here are thinking at the moment. If it is, indeed, the time for the final showdown between Him, and His rebellious servant, then what we most fear coming to pass *will* do so. It is a part of His plan, and His battle strategy for it to be so.

Once He has secured the victory against the rebellious, and bear in mind that it *is* both His fight, and His victory, then will He restore what we have lost, in our human imperfection.

What part do we play? He has laid that out as well, in His Word...

the infowarrior

163 posted on 11/14/2008 12:47:30 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: unkus

This is exactly what I feel. I know some of you feel we are just complaining and want it all to stop. I agree that we don’t need to waste all effort in just complaining, but even here on freerepublic.com, there are those who don’t seem to understand the significance of what just happened to us. I feel there is only one way out. National prayer and repentance. I know you may scoff, but when things get so bad that people call out to God to help, they tend to be a little more willing to look at personal and national sin and ask forgiveness. Tough times can bring out the best in us through repentance. I think that is the only thing that will get God’s attention at this point, as we mouth one thing but live another, nationally. In an interesting and informative article the other day, the Barna survey stated that though 86% say that they believe in God and call themselves Christian, only 7% actually believe and hold to (live) the true tenents of Christianity. We are like Europe in that respect.

I’d like to hope that we can win back more seats in 2010 and 2012, but I doubt that we are hurting enough as a country to rise up and turn it around. And, for those advocating fraud, acting like the democrats, to turn this around...God doesn’t work in that way. We will not succeed.


164 posted on 11/14/2008 12:55:31 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Chances Are; potlatch

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There are usually a number of less than subtle hints about the subject of my graphics

You missed a big one

It is right out of hussein the creepy’s book

Go directly to GOOGLE

Do not pass go


165 posted on 11/14/2008 1:04:33 AM PST by devolve ( ____"hussein the creepy" -- Evan Thomas - Nudesweek ____)
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To: El Gato
>>>They did have a Constitution, although it was not of long standing like ours is.

I had said Germany didn’t start out with a constitution and a nation which declared itself a nation of God.

I didn't think this out very well.
All governments have some form of a constitution.
Most governments of a free people identify themselves as religious, swearing allegiance to God in some way.

My point was that our constitution and history is unique in that it recognizes the flawed nature of government itself, and was designed to limit government's power and scope. Of course, a country is not defined by it's constitution, but rather by those who run it. For us it's an issue of the people failing to live up to their individual responsibilities, and not taking seriously the phrase "We the People". That is what is unique about it. I believe that our constitution was divinely inspired in many ways... not like the bible, but more like an answered prayer of our founding fathers who asked God Himself to help with it's formation. It was not modeled after any previous government or constitution, and put the ultimate authority in God's hands.
166 posted on 11/14/2008 4:23:15 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: El Gato

>>>Ours of course does not declare us a Nation of God

I stand corrected there...
Ours defines us as One Nation UNDER God.

>>>Now none of that means that we are not a Nation of God, but rather that if we are, it’s because we are a “People of God”, not a Government of God.

Total agreement here.
I think the argument has become “Are we a people of God?”.

I think we are... we are just not doing enough about it.
Now we’ll pay the price for it.


167 posted on 11/14/2008 4:32:24 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: advance_copy
Buy Lots Of Ammo Today.
168 posted on 11/14/2008 5:19:55 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: STARWISE

I didn’t think that I needed to say that my comments were directed to the author. You were the poster, as such, the author by proxy. Hence any comments to you are comments to the author, by proxy.


169 posted on 11/14/2008 5:24:37 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who donÂ’t.)
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To: STARWISE

The USA that we grew up in is gone, never to return. This is not a mere pendelum swing. The 20 million illegal aliens who will soon be amnestied will vote welfare ‘rat for the rest of their lives.

Obama will turn a depression into an opportunity to seize “emergency powers.” This will happen. Price controls, martial law. In short, communism in everything but name. And the sheeple will demand every bit of it.

The best conservatives can do now is move to deep red counties in red states, to put a buffer between themselves and the fedgov. Don’t feed the parasites, move away from blue urban welfare rat zones.


170 posted on 11/14/2008 5:28:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Aliska

This link was posted a while back by another freeper. It makes a lot of things that have happened very clear.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967


171 posted on 11/14/2008 6:20:22 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: mouse1

Something the writer failed to mention is that this is similar to the atmosphere preceding the Spanish civil war, only this time the army has been carefully stationed so far away that it won’t be available to support the conservative side.


172 posted on 11/14/2008 6:37:22 AM PST by solfour
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To: infowarrior
Just a couple of thoughts. We still had a pretty strong industrial base after WWII and the Korean War. It seems to have been Vietnam and the anti-war crowd that started yapping at us because of our industrial military complex. Now if we have to have interminable wars to justify all that, I don't see it as a good thing, but I've always thought having a strong military and industry to support it has kept us safer than we would have been otherwise.

The Fed. I've read a little about it, but have a banker in the family, found a book set out for the trash in front of some affluent house and read it, could have been conspiracy stuff. Anyway I asked about it, and got the "look" and nothing but good to say about the Fed.

So I don't talk about it.

173 posted on 11/14/2008 6:37:42 AM PST by Aliska
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To: El Gato

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter. Surely there is something we can do to stop this from happening. I wonder if it is even constitutional?!


174 posted on 11/14/2008 6:41:43 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: keats5

OH thank the Lord!!!! I inherited two!!!

My Grandpa’s old shotgun that he fed the family with may be a bit rust, but my dad’s 22 is in good working order.

They are kept seperately from my hubby’s registered shotgun.

The first thing that is going to happen is that all law regarding shooting someone on your own property will be over turned, then the Ammo will disappear.

People are right, BLOAT.


175 posted on 11/14/2008 6:54:48 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: STARWISE

this author is parroting Glen Beck.


176 posted on 11/14/2008 7:03:30 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: WVNight

Does anyone know how long Ammo “keeps”?
My hubby pitched a whole lot. How much can I buy reasonably and how long before it “goes bad”?


177 posted on 11/14/2008 7:03:50 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: antisocial

Thanks for the link.


178 posted on 11/14/2008 7:11:31 AM PST by Aliska
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To: MHGinTN

Think about how completely wicked this nation has become.

$$$$$

I agree that this is a huge part of the problem that has led to these election results.

Where have the mothers been for the past 20 years telling retail stores they would like to buy modest clothes for their daughters?

Where have the fathers been who decided that it is okay for their teens to wander around resorts in mini-bikinis?

Where has been the denunciation of the increasing vulgarity of tv shows?

Nowhere, at least not in any percentage enough to make a change.

40 percent of all births in the US are now to single women. That statistic tells me that our country as we have known it is not sustainable. The cornerstone, which is a strong family, has crumbled beyond repair - just like the weak spot of the bridge in Minneapolis - one day there was no strength left and it toppled over.


179 posted on 11/14/2008 7:11:39 AM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: solfour; Travis McGee

Something the writer failed to mention is that this is similar to the atmosphere preceding the Spanish civil war, only this time the army has been carefully stationed so far away that it won’t be available to support the conservative side.

&&&&&

There is a message going around left-wing circles about a Bush/Cheney army ready be used against Americans. A brigade or division on stand-by or some nonsense. I hear this concern from left-wing callers to radio and cspan so regularly that it must be something that is being sold to the gullible/anti-Bush crowd.

Somebody had a reason for starting this propaganda scare rumor, which, although totally preposterous, is being bought. I believe that it has something to do with Obama’s desire to get his own ‘security force.’

Enough of the gullible will think it is only “fair” for him to do it - to counteract the ‘evil’ rightwingers.


180 posted on 11/14/2008 7:28:21 AM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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