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To: B4Ranch
He is a citizen with a legal birth certificate or he does not have a birth certificate and is not a citizen.

He does have one. Hawaii has certified it. That's a done deal, unless you have proof of some corruption there.

The people either have a Constitution and the Rule of Law or they don’t?

If we really believe in the rule of law, then we acceot Hawaii's verdict and finally let this issue rest.

76 posted on 11/07/2008 12:59:12 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

When he shows it to the Court that’s when it will be accepted. Not until then.


77 posted on 11/07/2008 1:01:09 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: highball

He does have one. Hawaii has certified it......

To help clarify for everyone, his original birth certificate in 1961 was typewriter written with the hospital and doctors name on it. There should be a microfiche image copy of it somewhere.

What is being shown is a printout of a Certificate of Live Birth from the data on file. But in Hawaii these digital forms can be given out for people born abroad to American citizens.

Therefore he could be a naturalized citizen by the digital form but not a natural born citizen based on the original paper one, as the Constitution requires.


80 posted on 11/07/2008 1:08:32 PM PST by Hang'emAll
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To: highball

You said:
“If we really believe in the rule of law, then we acceot Hawaii’s verdict and finally let this issue rest.”
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Please tell me exactly when “Hawaii’s verdict” came in?

Your just making statements up to prove YOUR assumptions.

Look, some of us still care about upholding our Constitution.
I don’t want to move forward in this country if we don’t uphold our existing laws. It will not be a country worth keeping.

Why can’t you understand that.

If you don’t have any interest in our the nation that our founding fathers put together, then fine.
But, please butt out of this issue.

WE CARE. We are tired of defending the Constitution to people like you who think it doesn’t matter.


89 posted on 11/07/2008 1:57:47 PM PST by Aurorales
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