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Mhy McCain Lost
American thinker ^ | 11-5-2008 | Jewish Osyesseus

Posted on 11/05/2008 1:48:17 AM PST by indiana_gop

John McCain's incoherent, C- campaign did not deserve to win the Presidency this year. On the other hand, America doesn't deserve the punishment an Obama presidency is about to inflict upon us. Unfortunately, as a great Democrat once said: Life isn't fair.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008election
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1 posted on 11/05/2008 1:48:17 AM PST by indiana_gop
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To: indiana_gop

Well, why the hell did we throw him up in the primaries??? Why do we end up nominating these losers? We had only spent years bashing McCain as the RINO he is. This was a worse candidate than Dole in a year that would have been tough for Republicans even with Ronald Reagan running.

Duncan Hunter was far more conservative. Tom Tancredo was far more conservative. Ron Paul was far more conservative and had a youth movement going. Fred Thompson was far more conservative and more charismatic. Even Mitt Romney was sort of, kind of, maybe more conservative. And who do we choose, of ALL people? John Mc-flippin’-Cain!!!


2 posted on 11/05/2008 1:54:25 AM PST by CautiouslyHopeful
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To: indiana_gop

Before the American Thinker starts explaining to us; shouldn’t they take a really big look at the fact that we conservatives did not elect John McCain as our candidate. He was thrown at us, on top us, in the fact at us as the only alternative.

Expalin that, American Thinker.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 1:56:12 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: indiana_gop

author nails it. the only alternative at this point is to become a Democrat and reform that party. To paraphrase Reagan,

“I didn’t leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me!”


4 posted on 11/05/2008 1:57:14 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: freekitty
Did you read the article?


5 posted on 11/05/2008 1:58:32 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

But if I recall correctly, McCain was nominated by liberal Republican voters and democrats in open primary states. He was not nominated by conservatives. Blame the open primary system that allows democrats to vote in republican primaries. Also, you can blame wishy-washy moderate-to-liberal Republican voters in the northeast, i.e. New Hampshire.


6 posted on 11/05/2008 1:58:36 AM PST by def_dave7
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

But if I recall correctly, McCain was nominated by liberal Republican voters and democrats in open primary states. He was not nominated by conservatives. Blame the open primary system that allows democrats to vote in republican primaries. Also, you can blame wishy-washy moderate-to-liberal Republican voters in the northeast, i.e. New Hampshire.


7 posted on 11/05/2008 1:58:36 AM PST by def_dave7
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

I don’t know that I’m ready to abandon the Republican Party yet. There definitely needs to be a change in leadership, from the top down, though.


8 posted on 11/05/2008 2:00:37 AM PST by indiana_gop (Barack Obama-the best President George Soros could buy.)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful
The real answer to your questions is that after the Bush performance and his abdication of his role as titular head of the Republican Party and possessor of the bully pulpit, the Republican Party and conservatism was demoralized, confused, leaderless, and vulnerable.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 2:01:32 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

Winning the election in 2012 is simple all we
need is a African American and and a party
with no values.


10 posted on 11/05/2008 2:03:35 AM PST by MATSEVAH
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To: indiana_gop

agreed but how are they going to do that when the same idiots are running the party? Heck, those morons in AK voted again for Stevens!!! Maybe when that crook dies, Palin will take his place and, at least, be one conservative in the Senate where most of the Pubes are spineless dweebs.

And she’ll need to be in there to kick the ass of AL Fricken who looks like the other mindless morons of MN have elected to replace RINO Norm Coleman.


11 posted on 11/05/2008 2:04:51 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

There were many ‘conservatives’, but they represented different factions of the party. None of them was strong enough to stand out in the crowd, nor was any of them charismatic enough to attract people from other factions. At the end, we ended up with McCain. McCain is not to be blamed. Conservatives who couldn’t line up behind one candidate are. Even with open primaries, if they could actually set aside their differences to be behind 1-2 two ‘conservative candidates’, McCain could have lost.


12 posted on 11/05/2008 2:06:09 AM PST by paudio (Nobody cried racism when Ken Blackwell, Lynn Swann, and Michael Steele lost to White guys...)
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To: nathanbedford
Thank you for pointing that out.

Many of us pointed out time after time we need a leader; not a mediator.

13 posted on 11/05/2008 2:09:04 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

Agree. All of us jumped on board with him as we had to. He is not a leader, can’t communicate, yellow teeth, can’t run a campaign, runs terrible ads, didn’t really offer anything such as new tax code extra..oh well...


14 posted on 11/05/2008 2:11:24 AM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

The change needs to start with the party organizational leadership(RNC), and go down from there. Who’s is the one to do it,I don’t know. I’d love to see Newt running the RNC, because his days as an elected office holder are done. I think Mike Pence is the obvious leader as far as the GOP in the House. The Senate is, I agree in pretty bad shape as far as conservatives. I like your idea of Palin being in the Senate, maybe when Stevens goes to jail. I guess I think it’s better to reform our own party from within, rather than go to another. It will definitely take time, and it won’t be done by 2012, but it can be done.


16 posted on 11/05/2008 2:16:28 AM PST by indiana_gop (Barack Obama-the best President George Soros could buy.)
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To: indiana_gop
As the 1960's Left demographic takes its seats in the highest offices of the media, academia, entertainment, arts, "public policy" think tanks, polling organizations, even business and finance, we have to assume that every one of our initiatives will be maligned, marginalized and targeted for oblivion, while the most crackpot schemes of the Left will be given respectful and favorable commentary. In this environment, we simply cannot afford any more tongue-tied leaders who are unable to argue their way out of a paper bag.

Yep.

17 posted on 11/05/2008 2:16:49 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

We turned off all media.

So did McCain Lose the election. For sure?

No one seems to be able to say yes or no.


18 posted on 11/05/2008 2:18:13 AM PST by Global2010 (God Will see us through. Blessings.)
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To: indiana_gop

don’t know if this was posted, but if not, feel free to post it. posting on here is becoming a PITA.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122585703357500345.html


19 posted on 11/05/2008 2:18:29 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

Its very hard to win elections when the party faithful who usually donate the money and do the GOTV and whatnot hate your guts and can barely be persuaded that your not a closet democrat.

If the choice is between Democrat and Democrat-lite why not go for the real deal. We can never win if it comes down to who will hand out the richest swag bag.

McCain was a looser from day one which is why the DNC and media did everything they could to foster him on us. The RNC should consider itself warned: In 2012 we will be forcing the conservative dream candidate on you and God help any rino that gets in the way. Its brass knuckle time.


20 posted on 11/05/2008 2:21:54 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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