ATLAS SHRUGS HAS EMAIL EVIDENCE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM NOT IN HAWAII WHEN OBAMA BORN?

Atlas Shrugs ^ | October 27, 2008 | Pamela Geller

[null and void]

You DO know that both Barak 0bama, and FactCheck are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Anneberg Foundation, don't you?

Once again, this is the intellectual equivalent of uncritically accepting Goebbles' word that Hitler is a nice guy. He likes dogs and children, and he's so tender hearted that he's even a vegetarian!

BTW, welcome to FR.

[Gemsbok]

I think it depending on the authorities in question. Hawaii sounded extremely liberal due to the large quantities of home births and recent statehood. Their provision to provide COLB to offspring of residents born out of state or abroad is very open to abuse. The law states “any adult” could apply for the certificate or either of the parents of the newborn or adopted child.. Sounds like a very loose system to me.

Did his mother leave Washington in the summer of 1960, did she graduate January or June of 1960? Yearbooks from Mercer high Class of ‘60 are conviently now ‘misplaced.’

Is there any record that the age matches up with birth in 1961. The Kindergarten classmate in Hawaii provides a ‘67 class photo, yet the DOE in Hawaii has no records on his enrollment.

Just another coincidental missing record that would have stated names, dates and pertinent information regarding the identity of the candidate.

http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2008/Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan/

[null and void]

Yes. IF you already know a country is banned you can find out it is banned, or you could go through all 190+ countries one-by-one to find out which ones are banned.

I was looking for (and was sloppy in not mentioning that I was limiting my search to that angle) a list of banned countries. I couldn’t find one.

[LucyT]

Factcheck.org is an unreliable source. It is part of the Annenburg group.

[bvw]

Thanks for that timeline.

[null and void]

Worse, a foreign child adopted in Hawaii can get a brand new Hawaiian BC listing the adoptive parents as the genetic birth parents, and giving an Hawaiian place of birth!

THAT is why Berg wants the vault (original) copy.

[bvw]

No kidding, eh? Gee willikers.

Actually, as you know -- we know. We know.

And in general the consensus opinion of that FactCheck.org tender of "evidence" is that it is worthless and a distraction. Most likely a fraud. Which is all stuff you would learned had you followed these FR threads about Obama's birth legends for months and months, which many of us posting on them have.

But if you are real and honest, a seeker after truth, stick around. But be a bit more careful about telling a long time Freeper he's wrong on some fact, when that fact has been out there in the light of any public scrutiny for more than a few days. Freepers know everything known. That's just a fact, or a fair approximation thereof.

[SunkenCiv]

thanks LucyT.

Obama Birth Certificate issue:
Interview with Ramsay Wharton, reporter for Hawaii’s KGMB-TV
630 AM - WMAL, Washington, D.C. | 10/24/08
Posted on 10/28/2008 9:57:28 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117603/posts

[porter_knorr]

Why wouldn’t Biden be President in that scenario?

[SunkenCiv]

Judge tosses lawsuit over Obama citizenship
Tri-City Herald | October 28, 2008 | AP & Tri-City Herald
Posted on 10/28/2008 12:29:53 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117778/posts

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

There's only one banned country: Cuba. Heck, you can travel to North Korea if you want. The NoKos won't give you a visa, but the US government won't stop you.

The fact is that travel bans are, legally, sanctions against the foreign government and are under the aegis of the Treasury Department.

So, back to the original question: Do you have any real evidence, other than more blog posts, that travel to Pakistan was forbidden in 1981?

[1972BornFree]

Um it says AUTUMN 1961 not AUGUST 1961.

[1972BornFree]

Not following you here, what would be the motive of lying and saying you are born in Hawaii if you are really born in Washington?

[Iowan]

FactCheck.org is part of the Annenberg Foundation...so that is all that needs to be said about that!
At Obama’s campaign website, Fight the Smears, that is a Certification of Live Birth, that is NOT an orginial long form vault Birth Certificate. Obama had that sealed up iu Hawaii, as a response to the Berg lawsuit where he stated there was embarassing info on his BC.

It doesn’t even MATCH a Certification of Live Birth form from Hawaii during the early 1960’s!

Welcome to FreeRepublic as of today, 10-28-2008!!!!

[RasterMaster]

If they owned the property and you had an address, you could find in deeds at the county courthouse or in Sanborn Insurance Maps.

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/EART/sanbul_WA_MZ.html#

[Chief Engineer]

Ann Dunham along with her family left WA state in June 1960 following her graduation from high school. It has been well documented that Ann completed one semester at the University of Hawaii at Manao in 1960 and then she disappeared into thin air. There are no reports of her being pregnant or giving birth on the island and the next reported sighting of her is once again in Seattle when she visits her friend Susan Blake, where Susan changed the baby. Maxine Box reported visiting with Ann two weeks later at the home of her mother’s friend.

The kindergarten photo of Jr would have been taken before he and Ann joined Lolo in Indonesia. I wonder why yet more records have gone among the missing. It is curious!

[Tennessee Nana]

Barak could well be a British Subject...
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Oh, the huge manatee...

No, wait...

He could be heir to the throne of England...

:)

[null and void]

Libya was banned until very recently.

Look, this deserves more attention than I have time for at the moment. I need to get to a meeting and expect to be tied up for many hours.

So far I’ve realized that I didn’t post that info to you, it was to another FReeper, apologies there, and that the source, Jihad Watch, isn’t beyond question.

Please let me take care of business and get back to you later.

Thanks for raising the issue, I just might (gasp) learn something here.

[Chief Engineer]

I have already researched and found the various addresses for the Davis family, the Dunham family, Obama Sr. and friends of Sr. None of them is associated with the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy address which is listed as a 5 bedroom, 2 bathroom home 7 miles away from the addresses for any of the people I listed above. BIGLOOK, a HI Freeper has verified that the area where that house is located would cost mega money well beyond two students or even a well placed Bankoh employee and a furniture salesman. I believe grandma knew of a safe address which could be supplied for a registration of birth AND the birth announcement. She worked for the escrow department at Bankoh and by the end of 1961 was made the manager of the department.

[Fred Nerks]

In this article, the researcher of the article makes this interesting statement, The physical mannerisms and speech cadence and tonal quality of Malcolm X have an uncanny resemblance to Barack Hussein Obama Jr. Check it out. “

Under this statement is a YouTube video of Malcolm X titled:You Tube: MALCOLM X: I Have No Fear of Anybody or Anything

You absolutely need to check out this video and look at Malcolm X ...his mannerisms, speech patterns, facial features, etc. and then look at Barack Obama. Check the timeline the researcher has stated for timeline of Ann Dunham and Malcom X. Interesting!!

Keep in mind this other information that was in this article about Ann Dunham..”August of 1961: The same month that Obama Jr’s birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii, the University of Washington shows his mom Stanley “Ann” Dunham attending classes in Seattle nearly 2680 miles away from Honolulu. She was enrolled in the UW and lived in an apartment on Capitol Hill. This explains why Obama Sr’s friends in Hawaii don’t remember her.”

Also in that article, this information about Malcom X during that time frame- “1960: Stanley Ann Dunham graduates high school and Malcolm X forms the Nation of Islam Temple No.67 - Seattle, Wash. - 5943 Empire Way”

Who was Obama’s father? He stated he wanted the BC in Hawaii sealed because of embarrassing info.

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

Autumn 1961 Winter 1962 Spring 1962