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Proof Obamas Certificate Of Live Birth Means Nothing
Markedmanner ^ | 10/25/08 | Markedmanner

Posted on 10/25/2008 2:33:43 AM PDT by markedmannerf


Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.

This is straight from the Hawaii Department Of Health Website.

So in other words the certificate of live birth that is posted on Obamas website, Factcheck.org and KOS do not matter. Simply because someone who was born in a foreign country could obtain one.

(Excerpt) Read more at markedmanner.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bc; berg; bergvobama; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; colb; colbaquiddic; hawaii; indonesia; kenya; obama; obamacolb; obamafamily; obamagate; obamatruthfile; philipberg
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To: grey_whiskers

I don’t know any Muslims to ask but I would be willing to bet that there is some kind of service or something for babies and also when you are an adult or are recognized as an adult.


21 posted on 10/25/2008 5:01:06 AM PDT by volslover
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To: markedmannerf

22 posted on 10/25/2008 5:05:58 AM PDT by pabianice (Inexplicable and infuriating.)
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To: markedmannerf

Gee someone just figured this out, I have pointed that out for months....


23 posted on 10/25/2008 5:06:14 AM PDT by usmcobra (There are 665,000,000 reasons why Obama should show his eligibility to be president!)
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To: volslover
Sad ... but the burden of proof should be on Obama ... but it's not. Because he is black, the burden of proof is on “us” to prove he is not eligible. To make him prove he is would be racist.
24 posted on 10/25/2008 5:44:44 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: markedmannerf
But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."

He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

25 posted on 10/25/2008 5:59:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

i dont, know but I doubt a birth cert or a crazy michelle tape would make the obama voters vote for mccain, of course if its the birth cert then he is disquackified. really the michelle thing will get them nowhere. Might look into his college records, I could see him claiming to be a “foreign student” affirmitive action type schools love those type of people.


26 posted on 10/25/2008 6:34:09 AM PDT by 09Patriot (you can't spell barak obama without B.O.)
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To: ByteMercenary
Chicagocide sounds a lot better. Hillary brought that practice to this State and we get blamed.
27 posted on 10/25/2008 7:04:16 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: 09Patriot

Great point. Something is being hidden from the public and Country he wants “to serve”.


28 posted on 10/25/2008 7:07:49 AM PDT by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. The Constitution Dammit.)
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To: TexasCajun
Berg needs to play the f'ing tape - NOW! He said he would release it in a day or two. Well, it's been a day or two!
29 posted on 10/25/2008 7:59:43 AM PDT by library user
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To: grey_whiskers
Very good point. The only way to end this is for McCain and/or Palin to go on TV and challenge Obama in an ad. To be honest McCain should probably have done that during the debates, but this will still work just as well. They should do what you say, and Obama will HAVE to provide the cert.

Going through the legal system at this stage, even if it was successful, would take too long. A simple 30 second ad, shown in major states of contention, would shove it right up the behind of the Dems.

Strangely though, I do not expect such an ad (even though this is real political dynamite). Maybe the politicians know something we don't, or they are just too darn lazy.

30 posted on 10/25/2008 8:20:59 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: markedmannerf
Good find! kudos!

obumpa

31 posted on 10/25/2008 7:05:59 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: markedmannerf
There is more than one way to get at what is on record in the bowels of the Department of Health in Hawaii...Apparently if you are not authorized to access the records (as a relative or something) then you can apply for a Letter of Verification http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

This is essentially a blind verification— if you provide the information they will confirm if it is on record. $5 per guess...so you can make a guess, “Please verify that Barrack Obama was born at X hospital” or “Please verify that someone with the mother Durham was born on X day”

I'm not sure I have enough facts to submit the smart requests to get at the right information, but perhaps others do. And there is no telling what the turnaround time would be and how it could ultimately be used, but I think further answers are critical.

This is what the site says:
Letters of verification may be issued in lieu of certified copies (HRS §338-14.3). This document verifies the existence of a birth/death/marriage/divorce certificate on file with the Department of Health and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event. (For example, that a certain named individual was born on a certain date at a certain place.) The verification process will not, however, disclose information about the vital event contained within the certificate that is unknown to and not provided by the applicant in the request.

Letters of verification are requested in similar fashion and using the same request forms as for certified copies.

The fee for a letter of verification is $5 per letter.

32 posted on 10/25/2008 8:03:48 PM PDT by polstar123
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To: markedmannerf
But a legitimate Certification of Live Birth would not say he was born in Honolulu, if he wasn't and that was properly reported. So, he could have been in Honolulu, in which case he's a Native Born US Citizen. Or it could have been misrepresented on the registration upon which the CLB is based. Or the CLB is at least a partial forgery, that is it was alternated to indicate he'd been born in Honolulu.
If the first is true, why not release the source document? If it's not true, then he's not a Natural born citizen, and thus is ineligible.
33 posted on 10/27/2008 5:33:38 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Andy Martin just completed a 10-day investigation of Barack Obama’s past in Hawaii......

I tried to read that, but the 3rd or 4th time I read "Internet powerhouse Andy Martin", I nearly tossed my cookies, so I had to quit. I never got the results, if any, of his "investigation".

34 posted on 10/27/2008 5:50:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TexasCajun
If Berg has such a tape, now's the time to release it. Untranslated if need be, but even a rough transcript, identified as such, would help a lot.

Berg made that statement last week, it's been more than a day or two. Put up or shut up.

35 posted on 10/27/2008 5:57:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: markedmannerf

The mere fact that there is a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) and not a Birth Certificate (BC) seems to indicate he was foreign born.


36 posted on 10/27/2008 5:59:10 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: El Gato
"Andy Martin just completed a 10-day investigation of Barack Obama’s past in Hawaii...... I tried to read that, but the 3rd or 4th time I read "Internet powerhouse Andy Martin", I nearly tossed my cookies, so I had to quit. I never got the results, if any, of his "investigation".

What a shame that you have not yet mastered the skill of scrolling past the sometimes lengthy signature lines on blog entries to get to the next entry. Because what Andy says is quite fascinating and certainly food for thought.

By the way..... I think perhaps Andy felt it necessary to keep repeating his "credentials" in each entry because people will cut and paste to quote an entry and the credentials need to be there due to the highly explosive nature of the subject matter and allegations presented.

Poo poo and make fun of this guy, if you will. But the fact remains that Barry is deathly afraid to let the citizens see his real birth certificate and you can bet the reason why is that he has something BIG to hide. At least Andy is investigating the reason, unlike the masses of Americans who will follow like sheep & believe the smooth talking liar, Obama, even as they eventually watch their hard earned "wealth" being redistributed and their beloved American way of life crumble into a Marxist state. So which is it.... are you among the sheeple or just too lazy to scroll?

(sorry if I seem somewhat angry here, but I am angry at the thought of an Obama presidency. Can you truthfully blame me?)

37 posted on 10/28/2008 7:14:51 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: XGMan
Why doesn’t Bush order the FBI to do just a basic background check? Why doesn’t the FBI Director (nominated by Feinstein & Boxer) assign agents in Hawaii to go look?

I think you're not going to see something like this happen because neither the President nor the FBI have any legal basis to do a background check on a Presidential candidate. If it came out that either of these things had happened (and it would) it would be a political disaster for the GOP- the media would spin it as typical dirty tricks by eeevvvviiiil Republicans.

38 posted on 10/28/2008 7:19:41 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: markedmannerf

the biggest problem is that his grandmother admitted that he was born in Kenya. His true birth certificate is sealed in Hawaii. He by law has to produce the original or an actual true copy that has the same exact seal as the original. Hawaii has to be at least as strict as what the federal government requires on legal documents. If you want to see proof go to afreeamerican.com and surf through the site and click on any of the videos.


39 posted on 10/28/2008 12:10:00 PM PDT by tophercar
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