Posted on 10/19/2008 5:13:48 AM PDT by shove_it
It’s an interesting question. We know Barry couldn’t pass a security clearance for classified position (documented on a couple of threads and blogs) and I really wonder if Axlerod could pass.
The incredible global chaos in financial markets right now is bizarre. Whether deliberately manufactured or not- it’s got to be an attractive time for terrorists to strike.
Re: #20 “It’s an interesting question. We know Barry couldn’t pass a security clearance for classified position (documented on a couple of threads and blogs) and I really wonder if Axlerod could pass.” ~ SE Mom
Exactly. I kept some of those links for future reference:
Obama Couldn’t Be Cleared
by George H. Wittman 10.17.08
http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/10/17/obama-couldnt-be-cleared
The lowest-ranking enlisted persons in the Armed Forces of the United States who are expected to handle sensitive matters in the scores of jobs involving classified equipment or written material must be investigated before obtaining their security clearance.
Could Barack Obama gain such a clearance?
To begin, the clearance applicant would have to complete a detailed personal history form that includes, if necessary, government access to all health and education files. This is the starting point of all security investigations. Top Secret clearance involves a field investigation rather than the Secret version that is usually limited to a “name check” that is a basic police and public information file review. For the TS clearance an investigator will visit the home neighborhoods and work place sites of the applicant in search of supportive and/or derogatory references.
If the clearance is extended further into the handling of information of such importance that it requires a compartmented distribution, the field and document investigation is pursued with considerable vigor over a lengthy period of time. Nuclear and other sensitive technical or political matters fall into this category.
In all cases, whether on the lower level or up to the most sensitive intelligence, the background of the applicant’s personal and business involvement forms the nucleus of the initial phase of the investigation. The people with whom the applicant associates lead the investigator to personal connections and matters relative to the individual’s character, beliefs and past acts appropriate to matters of security.
Eligibility for clearance at all levels is directly influenced by the people with whom one associates.
Yes, who your friends are and have been does count — a great deal. This is true, of course, in many types of police investigations where suspicion is adequate reason for further inquiry. In matters of security clearance, past associations often can mean the end of the process rather than just the beginning.
Considering Barack Obama as a candidate for a top secret security clearance status with a full array of compartmented clearances, one has to be cognizant of the fact that there is considerable evidence of associations and even assistance from individuals with past criminal records or who have expressed anti-American beliefs.
Obviously admitted domestic terrorists William Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn, as well as recently convicted felon, Antoin “Tony” Rezko, fall into this category.
There is no possibility that a Top Secret clearance would be awarded to a member of the Armed Forces whose background included such associations. An intelligence service clearance for the handling of highly classified material would be totally out of the question.
IF THERE IS SOME hesitancy to accept that Barack Obama’s associations would have precluded his obtaining a TS clearance with compartmented information access, it should be realized he would have had to pass both a polygraph test and a personal psychological evaluation. What are the chances of his being willing to take these tests, to say nothing of his passing, in light of his refusal even to make his educational records available?
It may be deemed unfair, but a child of an American mother and a foreign-born non-U.S. citizen father always receives additional scrutiny. So does the fact that questions have arisen concerning the source of funding for Obama’s law school education. According to a well-researched article by Kenneth Timmerman (Newsmax), Obama was assisted financially by Khalid al-Mansour through the latter’s rich Saudi contacts. Mansour has been referred to as a “Black Nationalist and a Black Muslim” who was a mentor to the founders of the radical Black Panther Party of the 1960s.
All of these matters would have arisen in a normal security clearance. The harsh truth is that the United States is willing to accept presidential candidates like Barack H. Obama who could never gain a Top Secret clearance if he was simply a U.S. Army enlisted man.
And yet Obama wants to be Commander-in-Chief. Something is wrong here!
Letter to the Editor
George H. Wittman, a member of the Committee on the Present Danger, was the founding chairman of the National Institute for Public Policy.
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Related...
http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2008/10/barack-obama-couldnt-pass-routine.html
2 posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 8:38:55 AM by traderrob6
Let’s not forget Obama’s trip to Pakistan when he was in college, and the two Pakistani’s he lived with for two years during that time..... add to that his relationship with that Communist in Hawaii.....
And his admitted cocaine use.... we’re not even talking about all of the shady characters he worked with when he was a community organizer....
Obama would clearly fail any background check for security clearance.....
By the way.... Lt. Col. Allen West brought this up a few days ago, and Michael Steele mentioned it on Hannity and Colmes the other night:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100606/posts
18 posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 9:32:44 AM by Fox_Mulder77
The form you fill out for a SECRET or a TOP SECRET clearance is called an SF-86.
Some agencies have you do it on paper, others have you do it electronically.
You can Google SF-86 to see one in PDF format; if you want to try filling out the electronic one, Google the term “EPSQ”.
You download an application that looks as if it was written in Delphi or PARADOX. And then the fun starts.
You have the option to print the e-version out after you satisfactorily fill it out, and it self-audits for missing information, gaps in employment, and so forth.
Mine when printed out, was about twenty pages long; after doing one, I’ve always kept a copy because that way I have anything and everything that could possibly be asked on a job application in one place. (It took me about a week of research to find all the information they wanted.)
And just in case you’re interested, yes, I got my clearance.
10 posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 9:49:51 PM by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2097121/posts?page=10#10
No kidding!
Re #20 above, here’s more:
At 1:15 PM today, FNC’s Brett Bair (sp?) aired a live report from Shannon Bream who talked about the early vetting of the “staffers” on both campaigns.
Per my video, she said, “Both campaigns are being vetted by the FBI; dozens in the McCain campaign - which is A MUCH SMALLER SCALE THAN THE OBAMA GROUP.”
bttt
Huh? how does that make sense? I really don't trust government- but even so- it's hard to believe they're vetting McC's guys more than Obamas... Unless based on other inside info they know McC is more likely to be elected?
Farrakhan says ‘new beginning’ for Nation of Islam (SCARY...)
Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:56:06 AM Associated Press ^ | AP via Yahoo | Sophia Tareen
CHICAGO – The Nation of Islam, a secretive movement generally closed to outsiders, has planned a rare open-to-the public event at its Chicago-based headquarters in what the Minister Louis Farrakhan deemed a “new beginning” for the group. Hundreds of religious leaders of different faiths have been invited to the event planned for Sunday, a rededication of the group’s historic Mosque Maryam on the city’s South Side. Farrakhan is scheduled to speak. “We have restored Mosque Maryam completely, and we will dedicate it to the universal message of Islam, and the universal aspect of the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad,”...
Comments:
The Nation of Islam is an outgrowth of the Communist Party in the 1930s. Its goal is the overthrow of “racist” America.
Exactly. Like Reverend Wright’s concocted ‘religion’, it is actually revolutionary communist in its ideology. Both were/are parts of the Black Liberation Movement.
Black Liberation Theology can be packaged as Christian or as Moslem. There is a very close tie between Farrakhan, Wright and Obama. A socialist agenda is one thing, but a Liberation movement is another. “Spread the wealth” takes on a much different meaning.
In my mind, this link is the number one reason why Obama’s expunged history needs to be explored as thoroughly as is possible.
Ever read THIS from the Nation Of Islam website? Folks, this is looney tunes! Read it here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108865/posts?page=21#21
The “dozens” in the McCain campaign are a lot less that the ones being vetted in the Obama campaign - McCain’s are “a much smaller scale”.
What post will McCain accept? There’s no need to be afraid so I’m sure he’ll serve if asked.
Hegal is an idiot. This is what you get when you vote for the lessor of two evils. You still get evil. We started doing this in 1968.
Smacks forehead! I misread- thanks:)
It’s actually going to be funny watching the muzzies turn on these idiots.
That would be an under secretary position in the Dept. of Homeland Security headed by Jamie Goerlich.
bttt
Race card trumps security clearance card. This is the new America!
“Per my video, she said, “Both campaigns are being vetted by the FBI; dozens in the McCain campaign - which is A MUCH SMALLER SCALE THAN THE OBAMA GROUP.”
Huh? how does that make sense? I really don’t trust government- but even so- it’s hard to believe they’re vetting McC’s guys more than Obamas... Unless based on other inside info they know McC is more likely to be elected?”
Or, more of McCain’s people already HAVE clearances because he’s selecting from people with experience in the areas he’s planning on placing them. I think it’s pretty evident that McCain emphasizes experience.
Oh great! A proven traitor as Sec. of State.
You’ll enjoy this then:
http://electivedecisions.wordpress.com/2008/10/19/barney-frank-confesses-to-entire-mortgage-mess/
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