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Some Cases Against Some Cases Against Obama's "Birth Certificate"

Posted on 08/25/2008 2:27:45 PM PDT by Koyaan

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To: pissant

You attract all the best trolls. It must be your login name.


41 posted on 08/25/2008 8:47:35 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Koyaan
LET'S HAVE A LITTLE EDGE DETECTION RALLYE:

Tomoyasu COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/Jason-Tomo-BC-sobel-edge.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

PD's COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/doc_decosta_pat_birth-sobel-edge.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

Smith's COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/4hchew-Sobel-edge.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

Dan's 2007 COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/File0015-cropped-Sobel.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

FactCheck COLB photo:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/birth_certificate_2-sobel-sm.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

FactCheck/Kos COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate-Sobel-Edge.jpg

ONE CLEAR FOLD. NO SECOND FOLD. MUDDLED SEAL STAMP

OK, what have we learned here?

That the FactCheck COLB photo has two folds and a clear stamp just like all of the above.

That the FactCheck/kOS COLB image has only one fold, with no second fold in sight. Not even SEEN by image enhancement.

Yes, I can see that the FactCheck photo and image have vestiges of the signature stamp right under the date stamp and seal.

Only problem is that all 2007 COLBs had the signature stamp set off to the left -- and not in the middle like 2008 COLBs.

What? You thought their placement was random??

42 posted on 08/25/2008 9:22:15 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

obumpa


43 posted on 08/25/2008 9:45:55 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: JerseyHighlander

WHy not take it up with Jimrob instead of kneepadding in public for an Obama troll. Talk about embarrassing.


44 posted on 08/25/2008 10:27:12 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Kevmo

You better beleive the Obamunists know who pissant is. LOL


45 posted on 08/25/2008 10:28:23 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: JerseyHighlander; pissant

What you said about us doesn’t square with how pissant said, “I’m all for leaving it up.” You see what you want to see.


46 posted on 08/26/2008 12:10:52 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Koyaan

Wait, what the hell does Michelle Obama have to do with this? She wasn’t born in Hawaii. This whole thing is f#%&ing retarded.


47 posted on 08/26/2008 9:38:38 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: Koyaan; pissant

Hey Pissant:

I found this article on Media Matters. Free Republic does not allow it to be posted as a separate thread. The weird thing is that I can’t find the claim on the WorldNutDaily website. I would expect this article to be taken down soon from the Media Matters website as an embarrassment.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200808260014

Even WND disputes Corsi’s phony Obama birth certificate claim

Summary: WorldNetDaily.com, for which Jerome Corsi, author of the debunked and discredited book The Obama Nation, works as a staff reporter, has now taken on the claim that its own writer has been promoting, and determined for itself to be false — that the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama “has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website.” WorldNetDaily reported that a “WND investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts ... found the document to be authentic.”

WorldNetDaily.com, the right-wing website for which Jerome Corsi works as a staff reporter, decided to look into a claim made by Corsi and made repeatedly in right-wing blogs and on talk radio — that the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama “has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website” — and reported that it was false. In an August 23 article, WND reported that “FactChecker.org [sic] says it obtained Obama’s actual birth certificate and that the document was indeed real,” and added, “A separate WND investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic.” Corsi is the author of the debunked and discredited book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality (Threshold Editions, August 2008).

WND stated that the August 21 Factcheck.org report “discredited some of the claims of Internet bloggers, such as that the certificate as viewed in a scanned copy released by Obama’s campaign lacked a raised seal,” and that the WND investigation “revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.” But WND did not mention that Corsi repeated the charge that Obama’s birth certificate was fake on the August 15 edition of Fox News’ Fox & Friends. Factcheck.org, however, did note in its report that the “charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi ... repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.”

WND’s August 23 article also did not note that the website previously reported allegations that the birth certificate posted to Obama’s campaign site was a “fake document.” In an August 8 article, WorldNetDaily reported, “Israel Insider is reporting that analysts working separately have determined the birth certificate posted on the Daily Kos website and later on Sen. Barack Obama’s ‘Fight the Smears’ campaign website is fraudulent, and now two different actions have been launched to try and obtain the truth about the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee’s birth.”

From the August 23 WorldNetDaily.com article:

However, FactChecker.org [sic] says it obtained Obama’s actual birth certificate and that the document was indeed real. The site discredited some of the claims of Internet bloggers, such as that the certificate as viewed in a scanned copy released by Obama’s campaign lacked a raised seal. FactChecker.org also established that many of the alleged flaws in the document noted by bloggers were caused by the scanning of the document.

A separate WND investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.


48 posted on 08/26/2008 8:21:32 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

How many forensic document experts examined OB BC?
Can’t rely on factcheck.org experts....conflict of interest here.


49 posted on 08/28/2008 5:15:16 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Koyaan
Look who got ZOTTED.

Bwahhh!

50 posted on 08/28/2008 5:26:44 AM PDT by McGruff ("the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." - Joe Biden)
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To: Milligan; Polarik

How many forensic document experts examined OB BC?
Can’t rely on factcheck.org experts....conflict of interest here.
***None. Because Obama hasn’t offered the document for examination. But there have been Technical Guys that have examined the electronic version offered on Obama’s FightTheSmears website and they’ve determined it to be a forgery. One of the premium examiners is the freeper Polarik.


51 posted on 08/28/2008 8:35:41 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
How many forensic document experts examined OB BC? Can’t rely on factcheck.org experts....conflict of interest here. ***None. Because Obama hasn’t offered the document for examination. But there have been Technical Guys that have examined the electronic version offered on Obama’s FightTheSmears website and they’ve determined it to be a forgery. One of the premium examiners is the freeper Polarik.

Thanks for the ping and the plug!

52 posted on 08/28/2008 8:43:21 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

Pakistan....

What is wrong with Obama going to Pakistan during his college days?


53 posted on 08/28/2008 9:38:17 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan
What is wrong with Obama going to Pakistan during his college days?

Nothing is wrong with it, per se. However, if he used his Indonesian citizenship to travel there, then it is a problem.

54 posted on 08/28/2008 10:53:11 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Red Steel
Since I have not heard nothing but crickets about the statements above, I'll give them my plausible answer.

I've only posted the answer to this like a dozen times already, so why not do it again.

Alvin T. Onaka, MD, is the State Registrar, but not that long ago, Onaka also became the Head of the Office of Health Status Monitoring.

Because of having two roles to fulfill, Onaka does not even see these paper COLBS or the requests for them any more. Now he has a staff member stamping his signature block, the date the COLB was stamped, and also the embossed Seal.

In other words, Onaka has not ACCEPTED a COLB since he became the Head of the OHSM -- but has the COLB "FILED" by the office staff.

55 posted on 08/30/2008 2:33:28 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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