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1 posted on 07/25/2008 3:49:50 PM PDT by Amityschild
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Although I only read a bit of this I'm still willing to wager that there's not a court in the country that would find Osama ineligible for the Presidency because of foreign citizenships he might now hold or might have held at one time.

Of course this whole issue is absolutely a legitimate campaign issue.

2 posted on 07/25/2008 4:03:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bein ein beginner")
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Gracias, danke, tak, merci, todah, spicybut, ti-tsin! Oh fellow citizen of the world!


3 posted on 07/25/2008 4:06:57 PM PDT by bvw
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“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

This article makes a nice legal argument, but I think that the 14th amendment, cited above, will prevail in court. It’s a bit strained to argue that a person who is a citizen because they were born in the USA and subject to its jurisdiction, is not a “natural born citizen”. This interpretation would also exclude any child who had one immigrant parent who had not yet become a US citizen; and no US court will declare that.


4 posted on 07/25/2008 4:18:28 PM PDT by devere
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I have a solution. Petition the Senator for a true and actual birth certificate. You know, the one you must present when you apply for a Social Security Number. If he has a Social Security number, he has a legal birth certificate somewhere in his house or safety deposit box.
5 posted on 07/25/2008 4:30:26 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Each of us has our own song. When you find yours, it brings you great joy.)
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Good people are wasting precious energy on this eligibility issue. At this juncture only a fool would think there is even the slightest possibility that Obama’s eligibility is going to be challenged in any venue that actually counts (read the courts or congress), let alone a render a decision against him.

The only hope to unseat Obama this run is to hammer home exactly how his socialist policies would effect the country and its citizens.


7 posted on 07/25/2008 4:34:50 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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There is also a good discussion of this same issue in this case:
U.S. Supreme Court
U.S. v. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

169 U.S. 649

UNITED STATES
v.
WONG KIM ARK.
No. 132.

March 28, 1898

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=169&invol=649


9 posted on 07/25/2008 5:02:39 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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If Obama was born in the US, there is no way he can lose his citizenship except by voluntarily renouncing it upon attaining majority. What his parents did while he was a kid (being from Kenya, moving to Indonesia) is irrelevant! So, this discussion is a waste of time.


11 posted on 07/25/2008 5:16:35 PM PDT by cynwoody
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Natural born as defined in common law and in all the case law dealing with citizenship refers to loyalty to the United States, not just place of birth. John McCain’s parents were serving the United States in Panama when he was born, there is no question about any divided loyalties on the part of McCain’s parents or John McCain himself. Barack’s dad was Kenyan, his step dad was Indonesian and Obama lived there for four years. Obama’s dad’s loyalty to this country is certain, he had none; the same with his step dad. Obama’s loyalty at birth and growing up was divided and that is what this article asserts disqualifies him as natural born.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 5:48:37 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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Obama’s behavior in Kenya by campaigning actively for Odinga has to call his Allegiance into question.

22 posted on 07/25/2008 6:26:52 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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24 posted on 07/25/2008 7:06:03 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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Ping for later reading.


31 posted on 07/25/2008 10:06:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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