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To: potlatch
I'm in the south, hate to even write this out but there are many who will still not vote for a Black person. I know that and I am not prejudiced myself.

I'm in the Northeast, potlatch, and I know people who will not vote for a black person. I know people who are upset that we have a black governor in NY State. I think the reason the Dems and Drive-Bys (same deal) push the "first black candidate" line is due to white liberal hate-America guilt. Rush explains it much better.
198 posted on 07/24/2008 6:13:31 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi; All
Thank you for your informative post Miss Didi. I find so few that agree with me that I usually hesitate to even post remarks. I do usually find that the 'thought process' in the northeast is different than way down here in Texas, lol.

Thank you for showing me the exception, you are one of the few who speak up.

I had something I was going to post to ALL on this thread, I hope you won't mind that I include it in my post to you.


Salon.com

After Hillary Clinton's surprise victory in New Hampshire's primary, which seemed to contradict polls taken just days earlier, many pundits and pollsters reached for race as an explanation. They referred to the "Bradley Effect," the possibility that polls -- even those restricted to Democratic voters in a Northeastern state -- could be skewed simply by the presence of an African-American candidate in the race and whites' reluctance to appear racist by telling pollsters they would not vote for him.

The Bradley Effect;

The Bradley effect is named for Tom Bradley, the former mayor of Los Angeles. In 1982, Bradley, an African-American, ran for governor of California; pre-election polls gave him a clear lead, but when it came to Election Day, Bradley lost a close race. A similar phenomenon was observed the next year in Chicago, where Harold Washington, also an African-American, eked out a victory in a mayoral election despite pre-election polling that had Washington walking away with the race. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, five other biracial elections featured similar disparities between polls and the actual vote.

Social scientists and pollsters theorized that this might have to do with something called "social desirability bias." When called by pollsters, especially African-American pollsters, this hypothesis goes, whites who do not want to vote for an African-American candidate will feel embarrassed about being perceived as racist if they express that sentiment, and they will lie. Then, when they head to the voting booth, their real preferences are exposed.

In an Op-Ed piece for the New York Times, Andrew Kohut, the president of the Pew Research Center, wrote, "Poorer, less well-educated white people refuse surveys more often than affluent, better-educated whites. Polls generally adjust their samples for this tendency. But here's the problem: these whites who do not respond to surveys tend to have more unfavorable views of blacks than respondents who do the interviews."

Poor people were supporting Obama, and Hillary less, at much higher rates in the pre-election poll than in the exit poll. That's where the big gap is."

Total African American population

39,151,870

13.1% of the total U.S. population

Cheating and dead voters = 'unknown numbers'

Hillary supporters - many say they will not vote for Obama

200 posted on 07/24/2008 6:31:59 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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