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To: Bommer

The reality is, no one with any real expersite, experience, knoweledge or credentials has ever said certificate is phony!

There are 10,000 internet rumors, all from unnamed people or people with no credentials claiming certificate is phony. Each one builds on another. It’s all the sort of thing that normally starts with “My girlfriend’s mother’s brother’s hairdresser’s cousin’s friend heard on Oprah that.....”

For example, there was a posting that Obama had to have been born somewhere in North America, but not Hawaii, because:

1. A friend of his mother’s said in TV interview that Obama’s mother brought him to her house in Washington State three weeks after he was born.

2. There were no direct Seattle-Honolulu flights at that time (1961)

3. Airlines wouldn’t let infant on aircraft.

Everyone started screamning IT’S PROOF, IT’S PROOF, IT’S PROOF!

Reality is:

1. Interviewee said “a few weeks,” not “three weeks.” That could have been three weeks or 20 weeks.

2. Northwest Orient Airlines (now Northwest Airlines) had been flying Seattle-Honolulu nonstop since 1948!

3. Babies have been flying since the 1930s.

Remember, No one with any credentials at all has said any Obama certificate in forgery. It’s all internet gurus with NO expeirence in forensic documents. Researchers have now even found birth announcement in local newspaper.

This is all BS to keep us away from focusisng on real issue, Obamsa’s extreme liberalsim.


144 posted on 07/24/2008 8:36:29 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26
Researchers have now even found birth announcement in local newspaper.

That I gotta see. Have a link?

145 posted on 07/24/2008 8:47:21 AM PDT by BykrBayb (www.lifeforlauren.org Þ)
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To: MindBender26
1. Interviewee said “a few weeks,” not “three weeks.” That could have been three weeks or 20 weeks.

She also said that she showed Stanley Ann how to change a diaper.

Just how many weeks do you suppose it would take Stanley Ann to figure out how to change a diaper?

Do you seriously expect us to believe she'd still need to be shown after having the kid floating around the house for 20 weeks???

152 posted on 07/24/2008 10:01:23 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: MindBender26

I believe you are referring to comments on the Long Thread. And I don’t think you remember the discussion carefully. As I recollect the discussion considered that there were direct Honolulu to Seattle flights, but no London/Europe/African direct flights to Seattle — or anywhere on the west coast at the time. In 1961 flight legs where considerably shorter than we know them today, and the jet age was in its immediate infancy years. We were considering the possible story that his mom tried to rush back from Kenya to the states to birth Obama, but because airlines at the time had policies against boarding women very close to their delivery date, she was stopped at the gate and Obama was born in Kenya. She and he then rushed back — Kenya > London > Eastern Canada > Vancouver (that is all on British Air, because that’s what serviced Kenya). From Vancouver she drove to Mercer Island as a respite from the nearly two days in-flight with a newborn.


225 posted on 07/25/2008 6:05:55 AM PDT by bvw
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