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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you ! I somehow missed that.
And, of course, Uncle Charlie Payne.
So, he did have a family connection
in Chicago, but I never placed Stanley
Ann in Chicago.

Small, networked, connected group.

Tonight, I found out another interesting
factoid and curious juxtaposition I didn’t
know.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, 0’s foreign affairs
mentor at Columbia, was in Pakistan in 1981,
reports say the same time 0 was. Brzezinski
was helping to foment the Mujahadeen fight
against the Russians. So, who knows if
that was a ‘planned’ foray for the prof and
the student.

Video of ZB in Pakistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaiJtLrEwVU

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Astute readers may have begun to wonder how a struggling young college student with a divorced, middle-class mother managed to fund a three week trip to Pakistan. . . But Barry Obama-Soetoro was off shooting partridges in Pakistan, hosted by a young man named Muhammed Hasan Chandio. Chandio’s family owned a substantial amount of land in the region, and Obama apparently met him while both were students. (Chandio is currently a financial consultant in New York, and a donor to the Obama campaign.). . .

Another of Obama’s hosts in Pakistan was Muhammadian Mian Soomro, Obama’s senior by about 11 years, son of a Pakistani politician and himself a politician, who became interim President of Pakistan when Pervez Musharraf resigned in August of 2008. Soomro has said that “someone”� personally requested that he “watch over” Barack Obama, but will not name that individual . . .

A trip to Pakistan is no doubt more than a jaunt to a Florida beach. Few Americans would consider traveling there now, thinking it to be a dangerous place. In 1981, when one of Obama’s possible two trips there occurred, it was less safe. Because of the war between Afghanistan and the Soviet Union, millions of Afghan refugees fled to Pakistan, which was under martial law. The Afghan “mujahedeen” fighters had bases in Pakistan, and they moved back and forth to fight the Soviets. . .

In the early 1980s, Pakistan was one of the destinations Americans were prohibited from visiting - it was on the State Department’s list of banned countries. Non-Muslims were not welcome, unless they were on official business, formalized through the embassy of the country of origin. The simple truth is that no young American would have a reason to or be able to visit Pakistan in 1981, unless he was on official government business of which the State Department was aware. . .

Adding to the mix is the fact that Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, had visited at least 13 countries in her lifetime, and had worked for companies that required travel to Pakistan. Her employers appear to have included the U.S. Agency for International Development, the Ford Foundation, Women’s World Bank, and the Asian Development Bank. Note that USAID and the Ford Foundation have (allegedly) been used as covers for CIA agents. . . .

The story of Business International also includes its 1960s joint meetings with members of SDS at the prodding of Carl Oglesby. Not everyone was happy at the idea - including Bernadette Dorn - and probably for good cause.

Obama also was one of eight students selected to study sovietology by Columbia professor Zbigniew Brzezinski who, if he wasn’t a CIA official, was as close as you can otherwise get. Brzesinski is now a member of Obama’s inner circle.

http://prorev.com/2009/01/strange-rise-of-obama.html

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FR thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088995/posts

“The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend’s family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India. NOW, It all sounds very innocent, ‘a college trip to Pakistan‘. Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets.

One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik). Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. T

here would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981: To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every ‘True Believer‘. For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa. In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace. Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone’s family in 1981.”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/09/obamas-paki-con.html

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Don’t think that this really looks like bin Laden,
but that’s the caption, with ZB allegedly in
Pakistan in ‘81.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wilsnod/68772733/

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Dearlord .... the intrigue, obfuscations,
secrets, concealments and endless mazes.


8,459 posted on 09/30/2009 12:52:12 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

I believe it’s been hashed out that the Hyderabad 0bama visited was the one in Pakistan, not India. There’s a city of that name in each country. I could be wrong, though.


8,460 posted on 09/30/2009 1:33:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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