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To: OafOfOffice; LucyT

It doesn’t matter where she was born, if he was born outside the United States, she was not old enought to transfer citizenship to him. He would have to be naturalized.

I am a Birther who doesn’t think he was born in Kenya. I think he was born in Canada above Seattle.

Think about how a foreign student barely paying for an apartment, one unemployed 18 year old, no health insurance and no medicaid. They (the Dunhams) previously lived in Seattle where a lot of people would go over the border for healthcare because it was “free”. So it would make sense to go and have the baby there. Back then they kept you for nearly a week after the birth and this would explain why her friend talked about Stanley stopping by her house in Seattle a few weeks after Obama was born and didn’t know how to change a diaper.

Now what in the world would Stanley fresh from having a baby herself and toting a newborn in a non-disposable diaper world be doing in Seattle? Unless she was on the way HOME to Hawaii?

Just a theory and I wish I had the money to investigate. But I think people are spinning their wheels on the Kenya thing.

Lucy, I’m pinging you because I don’t know if you have heard my theory yet.


7,748 posted on 05/24/2009 2:41:28 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: autumnraine

She never went home to HI after the birth, she remained in Seattle never returning to HI until late fall of 1962. The registration of birth with Vital Stats was done by Madelyn and her word was sufficient to accomplish this task at that time of early statehood. The registration of birth generated the birth announcements in the papers.


7,752 posted on 05/24/2009 3:36:13 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: autumnraine

My understanding is if Stanley Ann Dunham had obama in Hawaii she was too young to confer her citizenship to obama. She had to be 18 for so many months or something.

If stanley ann was not born in the states, then both obama’s parents were not citizens and it could be a slam dunk.

If obama was born in Kenya and stanley brought him back to Hawaii, I would think the same first version would apply. She would be too young to give obama citizenship.

If she brought him back and found problems getting a delayed birth certificate because she was not a citizen would make things a lot clearer. A delayed birth certificate as you mentioned is not citizenship.

It matters to me if she was born in the United States because of all the rumors going around that his grandparents were spies or communists smuggled into the country. To me if you do not confirm each story then the next link may not make any sense. His grandparents records are all locked up as well as stanley ann’s. And the part where his grandfather’s military records are sealed because of 9/11 is too much for me to bear. Especially since they say he was spying and looking into records of was it Boeing? Madelyn worked at boeing.

Let me look and see if stanley armour has a military record online.

I know of the story of Stanley Ann going over the border to have her baby. And your theory of why she was going through Washington is very plausible. There was a rumor that someone found a birth certificate in Canada barack hussein muhammad obama. I have not found it. Wouldn’t stanley ann have obvious signs of being pregnant when she visited her friend? And if stanley ann just took over obama as a adoption she would also not know how to put on a diaper. And who was putting on diapers before she arrived at her friends house?

Why would stanley ann not be with barack obama in Hawaii? And if she only married him for convenience why name barack after him? And didn’t obama say his mother often was on food stamps and welfare? Do you know for sure they did not receive welfare and medicaid?

I think people do have the money to investigate this and have. I think all information is locked up tight. When I went to search it was just a fluke. I knew I would not find anything.

Lucy, I’m pinging you

Oh luuuuccccyyyy!! Hee!


7,753 posted on 05/24/2009 3:44:40 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: autumnraine

I am a Birther who doesn’t think he was born in Kenya. I think he was born in Canada above Seattle.
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I think the same. It all adds up, the Kenya thing you have to stretch the facts and it really doesn’t add up.


7,825 posted on 05/24/2009 11:34:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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