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The Natural Born Vice-Presidency
Unpublished | 20DEC08 | Pieter Nosworthy

Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:47:17 AM by Daddynoz

There has been much debate as to the Natural Born Citizen issue. I chose to examine the history of the Presidents (see previous post) and Vice-Presidents and their birthright relevance to the clause. Regardless of whether you consider the term citizen equivalent to the term natural born citizen, historically Presidents and VPs (including Joe Biden) born after the adoption of our Constitution (1787) have met the classical interpretation of a NBC (a citizen born on US territory to two (2) US citizens).

Historical affirmation of the NBC argument… “John A. Bingham, chief architect of the 14th Amendments first section, considered the proposed national law on citizenship as “simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents NOT owing allegiance to ANY foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN…” If this law was simply to reaffirm the common law doctrine then the condition of the parents would be totally irrelevant.”

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Many Americans, elected representatives, the courts, the media have committed a de facto reinterpretation of the Constitution to allow Mr. Obama to hold the office of the President despite his acknowledged dual citizenship. Compare Mr. Obama’s history to that of previous office holder’s and decide for yourself.

Barack Hussein Obama II (2009-) Born: August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii. Father- Barack Obama, Sr. was born in Kanyadhiang village, Rachuonyo District, Lake Victoria, Kendu Bay, Kenya (at the time a colony of the British Empire) in 1936. Mother- Stanley Ann Dunham, later know as Ann Dunham Soetoro after divorce from Obama II’s father, was born at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas on November 29, 1942. Father was not a naturalized citizen at the time of his birth. Barack Obama II was born with dual citizenship of the United Kingdom and the United States. Possible adoption by Indonesian father coupled with continuance of Indonesian citizenship as an adult (travel to Pakistan during State Department ban to US citizens, possible US college enrollment as a foreign student) could negate US citizenship or at least imply another dual citizenship. Circumstantial evidence exists Obama II born in Kenya and his parents later registered the birth in Hawaii. If born in Kenya, Obama II is not a US citizen at all due to 1952 statute not allowing mother to convey citizenship due to her age and time residing in United States past the age of 14.

Some of us are wondering, “Why is Mr. Obama entitled to special consideration in accordance with our nation’s highest document?”

FACTS:

There have been 42 Americans that have served as President (not including Mr. Obama). 10 were born before 1787. All those born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur*, met the NBC criteria.

There have been 46 Americans that have served as Vice-President (not including Joe Biden). 10 were born before 1787. All those born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur*, met the NBC criteria. 14 VPs have gone on to be President.

Of the 72 Presidents and VPs born after 1787, ALL (except for Chester Arthur*) have been born on US territory to both parents of US citizenship.

The Vice-Presidents of the United States of America:

John Adams (1789-1797) Born: October 30 1735 in Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.

Thomas Jefferson (1797-1801) Born: April 13, 1743 in Albemarle County, Virginia.

Aaron Burr (1801-1805) Born: February 6, 1756 in Newark, New Jersey.

George Clinton (1805-1809) Born: July 26, 1739 in Little Britain, Ulster (now Orange) County, N.Y.

George Clinton (1809-1812)

none (1812-1813) George Clinton died in office.

Elbridge Gerry (1813-1814) Born: July 17, 1744 in Marblehead, Massachusetts.

none (1814-1817) Elbridge Gerry died in office. . Daniel D. Tompkins (1817-1825) Born: June 21, 1774 in Scarsdale, Westchester County, New York.

John C. Calhoun (1825-1829) Born: March 18, 1782 in McCormick County, South Carolina.

John C. Calhoun (1829-1832)

none (1832-1833) John C. Calhoun resigned from office.

Martin Van Buren (1833-1837) Born: On December 5, 1782 in Columbia, New York.

Richard M. Johnson (1837-1841) Born: October 17, 1780 in newly founded settlement of “Beargrass”, near present-day Louisville, Kentucky.

NBC John Tyler (1841) Born: March 29, 1790 in Charles City County, Virginia Father- John TYLER III was born about 1757 in Charles City, Virginia. Mother- Mary ARMISTEAD was born in 1761 in York Co., Virginia.

none (1841-1845) John Tyler became President upon the death of William Henry Harrison.

NBC George M. Dallas (1845-1849) Born: July 10, 1792 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Father- Alexander J. Dallas was born June 21, 1759 in Kingston, Jamaica. Immigrated to Philadelphia in 1783. Mother- Arabella Maria Smith was born in Pennsylvania on ???.

NBC Millard Fillmore (1849-1850) Born: January 7, 1800 in Cayuga County, New York. Father- Nathaniel Fillmore was born April 19, 1771 in Bennington, Vermont. Mother- Phoebe Millard was born 1780 in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.

none (1850-1853) Millard Fillmore became President upon the death of Zachary Taylor.

William King (1853) Born: April 7, 1786 in Sampson County, North Carolina.

none (1853-1857) William King died in office. . NBC John C. Breckinridge (1857-1861) Born: January 16, 1821 near Lexington, Kentucky. Father- Joseph Cabell Breckinridge was born July 24, 1788 in Fort Monroe, Virginia. Mother- Mary Clay Smith was born August 31, 1787 in ???.

NBC Hannibal Hamlin (1861-1865) Born: August 27, 1809 in Paris, Maine. Father- Cyrus Hamlin was born July 21, 1769 in Pembroke, Mass. Mother- Anna Livermore was born April 6, 1775 in Waltham, Mass.

NBC Andrew Johnson (1865) Born: December 29, 1808 in Raleigh, North Carolina. Father- Jacob Johnson was born circa 1778. Some sources indicate that he was born in Newcastle, England and sailed to America around 1795, but other sources indicate that he was born in Raleigh, North Carolina, and that it was his grandfather (and possible namesake) who sailed to North America from England. Mother- Mary “Polly” McDonough was born 1783 in ??? (possible Irish immigrant). Parents married September 9, 1801. Mother automatically granted citizenship upon marriage, if she was an immigrant, due to naturalization statutes of that period.

none (1865-1869) Andrew Johnson became President upon the death of Abraham Lincoln.

NBC Schuyler Colfax (1869-1873) Born: March 23, 1823 in New York City. Father- Schuyler Colfax, Sr. was born ??? VP Colfax’s paternal grandfather had fought in the American Revolution and served closely with George Washington. Mother- Hannah Stryker was born ???

NBC Henry Wilson (1873-1875) Born: February 16, 1812 in Farmington, New Hampshire. Original name Jeremiah Jones Colbath (changed 1833). Father- Winthrop Colbath, Jr. was born on April 7, 1787 in Farmington, New Hampshire. Mother- Abigail Witham was born on March 21, 1785 in Kittery, York Co ME.

none (1875-1877) Henry Wilson died in office.

NBC William Wheeler (1877-1881) Born: June 30, 1819 in Malone, New York. Father- Almon Wheeler was born ??? Mother- Eliza Woodworth was born ???

Chester Arthur (1881) Born: October 5, 1829 in Fairfield, Vermont. Father- William Arthur, when eighteen years of age, emigrated from Co. Antrim, Ireland. Father did not become a naturalized citizen until 14 years after Chester Arthur’s birth. Mother- Malvina Stone born April 29, 1802 in Berkshire, Franklin, Vermont. Chester Arthur born with dual citizenship of the United Kingdom and the United States. Chester Arthur lied numerous times about his past to obfuscate his ineligibility to hold Vice-Presidential and Presidential office. Burned all personal records upon his death.

none (1881-1885) Chester Arthur became President upon the death of James Garfield.

NBC Thomas Hendricks (1885) Born: September 7, 1819 near East Fultonham, Ohio. Father- John Hendricks was born in Westmoreland County, Pa. in 1791. Mother- Jane Thompson ??? Her family emigrated from Scotland to Pennsylvania before the Revolution.

none (1885-1889) Thomas Hendricks died in office.

NBC Levi P. Morton (1889-1893) Born: May 16, 1824 in Shoreham, Addison County, Vermont. Father- Daniel Oliver Morton was born December 21, 1788 in Winthrop, ME. Mother- Lucretia Parsons was born July 26, 1789 in Goshen, Mass.

NBC Adlai E. Stevenson (1893-1897) Born: October 23, 1835 in Christian County, Kentucky. Father- John Turner Stevenson was born ??? VP Stevenson’s great-grandfather emigrated from Scotland around 1748, settling first in Pennsylvania and then in North Carolina. Mother- Eliza Anne Ewing was born October 20, 1809 in Statesville, Irdell Co., NC.

NBC Garret Hobart (1897-1901) Born: June 3, 1844 in Long Branch, New Jersey. Father- Addison Willard Hobart was born September 1, 1819 in Columbia, Coos Co, New Hampshire. Mother- Sophia Vanderveer was born 7 February 7, 1819 at Freehold, Monmouth Co, New Jersey.

NBC Theodore Roosevelt (1901) Born: October 27, 1858 in New York, New York. Father- Theodore Roosevelt, Sr. was born September 22, 1831 in the state of New York. Mother- Mittie Bulloch was born in Hartford, Connecticut on July 8, 1835.

none (1901-1905) Theodore Roosevelt became President upon the death of William McKinley.

NBC Charles Fairbanks (1905-1909) Born: May 11, 1852 near Unionville Center, Ohio. Father- Loriston Fairbanks was born 1824 in ??? Lineage to Jonathan Flayerbanks (Fairbanks), a passenger on the Speedwell from Holland, reached the American colonies with the Mayflower Pilgrims. Mother- Mary Adelaide Smith was born ???

NBC James S. Sherman (1909-1912) Born: October 24, 1855 in Utica, New York. Father- Richard Updike Sherman was born June 26, 1819 in Vernon, Oneida, NY. Mother- Mary Frances Sherman was born September 3, 1822 in Utica, Oneida, NY.

none (1912-1913) James S. Sherman died in office.

NBC Thomas R. Marshall (1913-1921) Born: March 14, 1854, North Manchester, Ind. Father- Daniel Marshall was born ??? Mother- Martha A. Patterson was born ??? She belonged to the same family as John Carroll, of Carrollton, who was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

NBC Calvin Coolidge (1921-1923) Born: July 4, 1872 in Plymouth, Vermont. Father- John Calvin Coolidge was born on November 30, 1845 in Plymouth, Windsor Co., VT. Mother- Victoria Josephine Moor was born on March 14, 1846 in Plymouth, Windsor Co., VT.

none (1923-1925) Calvin Coolidge became President upon the death of Warren G. Harding.

NBC Charles Dawes (1925-1929) Born: August 27, 1865 in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio. Father- Rufus Robinson Dawes was born July 4, 1838 in Malta, Ohio. Mother- Mary Beman Gates was born August 27, 1842 in Marietta, Ohio.

NBC Charles Curtis (1929-1933) Born: January 25, 1860 in Topeka, Kansas Territory. Father- Orren Curtis was born June 23, 1829 at Eugene,Vermillion County, Indiana. Mother- Ellen Pappan was born in 1840 at Kaw Indian Reservation, Oklahoma Territory.

NBC John Nance Garner (1933-1941) Born: November 22, 1868 near Detroit, Red River County, Texas. Father- John Nance Garner III was born October 11, 1844 at Rutherford County, Tennessee. Mother- Sarah Jane Guest was born May 30, 1851 at Detroit, Red River, Texas.

NBC Henry A. Wallace (1941-1945) Born: October 7, 1888 near Orient, Adair County, Iowa. Father- Henry Cantwell Wallace was born May 11, 1866 in Rock Island, Illinois. Mother- Carrie May Brodhead was born ??? in Muscatine, IA.

NBC Harry S Truman (1945) Born: May 8, 1884 in Lamar, Missouri. Father- John Anderson Truman was born on December 5, 1851 in Jackson County, Missouri. Mother- Martha Ellen Young was born on November 25, 1852 in Jackson County, Missouri.

none (1945-1949) Harry Truman became President upon the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

NBC Alben Barkley (1949-1953) Born: November 24, 1877 near Lowes, Graves County, Kentucky. Father- John Wilson Barkley was born ??? Presumably a native of North Carolina. Mother- Electra Eliza Smith was born ??? Presumably a native of Kentucky.

NBC Richard Nixon (1953-1961) Born: January 9, 1913 in Yorba Linda, California. Father- Francis A. Nixon was born in Vinton County, Ohio on December 3, 1879. Mother- Hannah Milhous was born in Jennings County, Indiana on March 7, 1885.

NBC Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1963) Born: August 27, 1908 near Stonewall, Texas. Father- Samuel Ealy Johnson, Jr. was born in Buda, Texas on October 11, 1877. Mother- Rebekah Baines was born on June 26, 1881, at McKinney, Texas.

none (1963-1965) Lyndon Johnson became President upon the death of John F. Kennedy.

NBC Hubert Humphrey (1965-1969) Born: May 27, 1911 in Wallace, Codington County, South Dakota. Father- Hubert Humphrey, Sr. was born in 1882 in Harrisburg (Linn), OR. Mother- Ragnild Kristine Sannes was born August 24, 1883 in Norway. Married April 16, 1906. She automatically acquired citizenship upon marriage as per the naturalization statutes of the period.

NBC Spiro Agnew (1969-1973) Born: November 9, 1918 in Baltimore, Maryland. Father- Theodore Spiros Agnew was born September 25, 1878 in Gargaliani, Greece. Emigrated to US in 1897. Mother- Margaret Akers was born in Virginia circa 1884.

none (1973) Spiro Agnew resigned from office.

NBC Gerald Ford (1973-1974) Born: July 14, 1913 in Omaha, Nebraska. Father- Leslie Lynch King, Sr. was born in Chadron, Nebraska on July 25, 1884. Mother- Dorothy Ayer Gardner was born in Harvard, Illinois on February 27, 1892.

none (1974) Gerald Ford became President upon the resignation of Richard Nixon.

NBC Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977) Born: July 8, 1908 in Bar Harbor, Maine. Father- John Davison Rockefeller, Jr. was born January 29, 1874 in Cleveland, Ohio. Mother- Abigail “Abby” Greene Aldrich was born October 26, 1874 in Providence, Rhode Island.

NBC Walter Mondale (1977-1981) Born: January 5, 1928 in Ceylon, Minnesota. Father- Theodore Sigvaard Mondale was born January 25, 1876 in Minnesota. Mother- Claribel Hope Cowan was born May 1, 1892 in Pringhar, Iowa.

NBC George Bush (1981-1989) Born: June 12, 1924 in Milton, Massachusetts. Father- Prescott Sheldon Bush was born in Columbus, Ohio on May 15, 1895. Mother- Dorothy Wear Walker was born near Walker’s Point, in York County, Maine on July 1, 1901.

NBC Dan Quayle (1989-1993) Born: February 4, 1947 in Indianapolis, Ind. Father- James Cline Quayle was born May 25, 1921 in Joliet, Ill. Mother- Martha Corinne Pulliam was born June 22, 1922 in Franklin, Ind.

NBC Al Gore (1993-2001) Born: March 31, 1948 in Washington, D.C. Father- Albert Arnold Gore, Sr. was born December 26, 1907 in Granville, Jackson Co., Tenn. Mother- Pauline LaFon was born in 1913 in Weakley Co., Tenn.

NBC Dick Cheney (2001- ) Born: January 30, 1941 in Lincoln, Neb. Father- Richard Herbert Cheney was born June 26, 1915 in Nebraska. Mother- Marjorie Lorraine Dickey was born January 8, 1918 in Nebraska.

NBC Joseph Biden (2009-) Born: November 20, 1942 in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Father- Joseph Robinette Biden Sr was born November 13, 1915 in Baltimore, Md. Mother- Catherine Eugenia “Jean” Finnegan was born July of 1917 in Scranton, Pa.

* http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/urgent-historical-breakthrough-proof-chester-arthur-concealed-he-was-a-british-subject-at-birth/

Good reference for citizenship matrix http://theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenChart2.htm

Great reference for natural born citizen http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

In the few hours I had to put this together I have come up short finding certain dates and locations of birth for some of the VP’s parents. If you have knowledge of better information, I’d appreciate your sending it to me. Thanks.


6,824 posted on 01/02/2009 2:41:34 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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