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To: bvw
What of the right of the children of ambassadors and agents of foreign countries born in the US to claim US citizenship and “natural born” status?
The children of people who are in the United States on diplomatic passports do not automatically get citizenship.

Remember that when a foreign diplomat commits a crime they are deported to their home country with a complaint to their government. Presumably they are tried and punished there.

This became an issue many years back with diplomatic parking tickets. Some foreign diplomats were parking wherever they felt like since they didn't have to pay the parking tickets.

By agreement they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US government.

5,402 posted on 08/25/2008 10:54:50 AM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
Remember that when a foreign diplomat commits a crime they are deported to their home country with a complaint to their government. Presumably they are tried and punished there.
I'll anticipate the anchor baby question. An illegal committing a crime in the United States is first tried and punished here and then deported. They are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
5,403 posted on 08/25/2008 11:00:03 AM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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Would you count Obama's Dad as a visitor like to an ambassador? A visitor here for the official business of his own country? Not every diplomat or agent of a foreign government travels under diplomatic passport. Yet because they are agents of a foreign power, a child born to one of them certainly has a conflicted birth loyalty.

If Obama had never traveled to Kenya and campaigned for his Dad's relative, if Obama did not express any longing dreams of his absent father and instead severed all ties -- it might be argued he would be presumed a natural born child of a single-mom. But he did not. His loyalty is from the time of his birth conflicted. His father's citizenship binds Obama to Kenya as much as the US, Obama himself, while a mature adult, has proved that. Thus, Obama is not a full "natural born" citizen even if he was born in the US.

How do you read such a case -- not just Obama, but in similar cases of a child born to a citizen and an ambassador or non-citizen agent of a foreign nation?

5,405 posted on 08/25/2008 11:15:04 AM PDT by bvw
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