The information about Stanley Armour Dunham being angry about his daughter being pregnant came from step-grandmother Sarah and appeared in the londonukonline series which was done on Obama. At the same time in his book Obama mentioned that Ann and her father were ‘on the outs’ by the time the Dunham family headed for the island.
DrC where did you get the idea that Ann was in a PhD program when she didn’t even have a degree?
On another point ‘The Honolulu Advertiser” verified that Obama Sr graduated and left Hawaii in 1962 before his son was even a year old.
#4450—Thanks!
The information I have is:
In 1958, Obama Senior was awarded an American sponsored scholarship in economics to the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He was selected by a former Kenyan cabinet minister, the late Tom Mboya, who was earmarked as the successor to Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya's first prime minister and a leader of the terrorist Mau Mau.
The presumption was that Senior would return to Africa and use his “Western-honed skills in a new Kenya.”
In 1959, at the age of 23, Obama Sr. left behind his pregnant wife Kezia and their children to become the first African student enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.
So, if he were a freshman in 1959, he would have graduated in 1963, supporting the, “he left when Obama II was 2 years old.
There's no paper trail for this guy, except what he's written in his books.
He's a complete invention of his own imagination.
1. You said: “The information about Stanley Armour Dunham being angry about his daughter being pregnant came from step-grandmother Sarah and appeared in the londonukonline series which was done on Obama.”
Sure, but David made a much stronger claim: “Stanley Ann had been kicked out by her family.” I’d not seen that asserted before and given that Obama also reports Ann’s family coming to accept Senior and his much stronger statements of how angry Senior’s father was about the whole situation, the odds that Kenya would be a respite from parental agitation about the newborn seem low.
2. You said: “At the same time in his book Obama mentioned that Ann and her father were ‘on the outs’ by the time the Dunham family headed for the island.”
Sure, but this happened well before she met Senior, bot pregnant or birthed Junior. There’s no doubt Ann had a smoother relationship with mom than dad, but she also recounts dad trying to (clumsily) fit in with her college friends, so I never interpreted this as some sort of severe, unbreachable rift between them. IF she had been tossed from the house, one could certainly point to this as an early warning signal of a tenuous relationship for which an unplanned pregnancy could have served as the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. But I’m seeking evidence that she ever was tossed out in the first place, not the nature of the relationship itself.
3. You said: “DrC where did you get the idea that Ann was in a PhD program when she didn’t even have a degree?”
My mistake. I misremembered, thinking that Senior was in a graduate program, as I knew he eventually got a graduate degree in economics and because Obama’s description of student gatherings involving his parents reminded me of my own graduate school days. But on rechecking I realize Senior didn’t start graduate school until going to Harvard and that he ended up with Masters, not a PhD. Sorry for the confusion.
4. You said: “On another point ‘The Honolulu Advertiser” verified that Obama Sr graduated and left Hawaii in 1962 before his son was even a year old.”
I’ll take this at face value, but Obama says 2 years and unless Senior graduated from Hawaii in only 3 years, he began in 1959, so his graduation year should have been spring 1963 etc. (which then would be more consistent with Obama’s account). So in the grand scheme of things, it probably doesn’t matter, but it’s always been a bit of a puzzle.