[Fred Nerks]

...The message in the forgery is that there is some factual disclosure in the actual filing that casts doubt on the position that he was actually born in Honolulu--otherwise they shouldn't have tried to use the forged document.

I think 'the message in the forgery' is that there never was an Hawaii CoLB at all. If he had one, regardless of names or information on it, he could have used his own and simply changed what he wanted to hide.

If we accept that the CoLB used belonged to someone else, wouldn't that indicate obama had nothing belonging to himself, at his disposal to tamper with?

[OldEagle]

"I think 'the message in the forgery' is that there never was an Hawaii CoLB at all."

Unless it is a big-time misdirection and we are all weeing in the wind.

[David]

If we accept that the CoLB used belonged to someone else, wouldn't that indicate obama had nothing belonging to himself, at his disposal to tamper with?

Maybe, you can't be sure.

Given the Hawaii Advertiser report and the use of the Accepted for filing date of August 8, I tend to suspect that an affidavit filing of some character will appear.