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To: bvw; DrC; David
bvw #4121: Thank you! Now I don't have to look through 4,000 posts!

DrC #4123: I stand corrected (I was searching by city/country, and should have simply searched on Kenya: my bad). Thank you for pointing that out. There are, however, no Kenyan vital records listed in the FH Library catalog.

David: The book in the FH Library is listed in:

ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF AFRICANA BIBLIOGRAPHY. Vol. 1.
(Guides, Collections and Ancillary Materials to African Archival Resources in the United States)

In the bibliography preface, it states, "...the Government of Kenya has sought records of "migrating archives" outside the country. Finally in 1989, the Kenya National Archives published the results of their search in the Guide to Records Retrieved from U.K. and U.S.A. (see item 264; 298-299 for Malawi, and 753 for Zimbabwe)."

The Kenya list in the "Contents" section refers to microfilm holdings at various university libraries  throughout the country, as well as the Library of Congress, NYC Public Library, the Hoover Institution in Stanford, the Center for Research Libraries in Chicago and some British locations. The description of the microfilm isn't very detailed, so you would probably have to access each library's holdings to find out if there are vital records included. Michigan State apparently has the largest collection.

David: please excuse my earlier error. I did however, indicate in my original post that the FH Library is run by the Mormons, and it's fairly obvious that it's an LDS facility via the search page I linked. Aside from the fact that no Kenyan vital records are listed in their catalog, I'm curious how to you intend to "penetrate it?"

By the way, you don't have to go to Salt Lake City  to access the materials listed in the catalog as "Available." Simply write down the call number of the catalog items you want to research, then find a Family History Center in your area by using the search box on the familysearch.org main page. Go to the local center, submit your request, and wait for the item to be shipped from SLC (the materials can only be used at the local center, and can't be taken home, however).

But, before you do any of the above, why not simply contact the Nairobi Civil Registrar, by mail or phone, per the Google Books link?

4,129 posted on 08/03/2008 2:07:26 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad; bvw; DrC; David
Well it is kind of late in the day to undertake this but this is the ultimate topic. If we can find a document confirming his birth in Kenya; and another document confirming marriage of Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. in Kenya, we can probably end his candidacy.

In the bibliography preface, it states, "...the Government of Kenya has sought records of "migrating archives" outside the country. Finally in 1989, the Kenya National Archives published the results of their search in the Guide to Records Retrieved from U.K. and U.S.A. (see item 264; 298-299 for Malawi, and 753 for Zimbabwe)."

Is there a separate publication of the Kenya National Archives? Or are these names at the end of each item note (YALE; IOWA; etc.) all of the information you get--there are archives there--go look? There are a number of IOWA universities--which one? Probably not too difficult to figure out.

I know you said the Family Home Library was run by Mormons but it looked like there were a handful of Mormon genealogy libraries. And for that matter, at present, you might think the library that got the Kenya records was misidentified.

What you have is a fairly extensive research project to be accomplished in a fairly short period of time. On the other hand, you might doubt the opponent will allocate the resources to do that work to figure out which ones to scrub either. As I speculated earlier, these kinds of records get spread out because there is a wide geographical range of interest--so copies of the ones you want may be located in several different places.

Why not call Nairobi? I assume someone has already done that. Further, you need to recognize that this is an adversary situation--you are looking for information that will conclusively disqualify Obama as eligible to be President of the US--in opposition to a number of people, many of them in Kenya, who think electing him is the thing to do.

What you need is an army of investigators to send out to these locations to look for the pieces of of the record that will demonstrate where he was born and that his parents were married in Kenya. Or you might locate a Free Republic person in each location who could take the time to go look at the library location for Kenya records.

If he gets elected President, you can guarantee that he will perform an act that offends an economic interest that has sufficient financial horsepower to conduct a real search to support the argument that Obama is not eligible to perform the act.

Maybe we go through the notes on the Electronic Journal publication--make a list of the locations where the copies might be; post it here and see if some of the 10,000 people who are interested in this thread can find records that count.

4,146 posted on 08/03/2008 7:14:33 PM PDT by David (...)
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