[WOSG]

As far as i can tell, the core of the disagreement is this:

“What Techdude took as a really, really bad forgery I had always concluded represented an updated background and paper for the Hawaii COLB. It never occurred to me any serious adult would confuse two clearly different documents, separated by 5 years, as being some kind of forgery.”

Either the Obama COLB got the background ‘wrong’ and is a forgery, or the Obama COLB has a background which matches the real form output for those who made the request in June 2007, thus validating its varacity as a scan of a real COLB.

The DeCosta 2002 form doesnt conclusively prove a forgery, as the background may have changed. Hawaii freepers could request COLB copies *today* and thereby shed light on the format.

[bvw]

In that posting techdude says (1) He has at hand a number of copies over the years of HI COLB form. He was aware of the issues of variant forms. (2) The KOS COLB document image he examined was NOT a raw scanned image -- by doing statistical analysis on the image data chunking in the file (that's my read on what his forensics are) techdude was able to determine that just about everything in that image -- except perhaps the background, had been modified after the raw scan.

And for my own part, I had better get back to my work, for these discussions have indeed sucked dollars out of my account, by way of me not doing what I can bill.