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To: WOSG
What we need to see is a FILED dcument bearing seal.” The impression of the seal in the Obama graphic of the doc has been identified. Tehy’ve delivered what you asked for. The myth remains busted.

Why can't they simply scan and post both sides instead of relying on graphically enhanced faint appearances of a seal? And then there is still the question of the signature block. Again, there are traces of smudges, but unlike the traces of the seal, the smudges can't be identified as being a signature block.

Thy myth isn't busted until Obama releases both sides of the document. By only show the front side with traces of certification and demanding that it be accepted as valid, he's continuing the perception that he only has one side of a document to show.

-PJ

3,216 posted on 07/13/2008 3:51:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Thy myth isn't busted until Obama releases both sides of the document. By only show the front side with traces of certification and demanding that it be accepted as valid, he's continuing the perception that he only has one side of a document to show.

STRATA-SPHERE.LINK.

The Obama “Forged Birth Certificate” Myth Is Busted

...the stamp of the state seal and the signature area impressions coming in from the back of the Kos and BHO Campaign images, further proving their authenticity - not proving a forgery:

...The date stamp from last year is clear, the stamp of the seal and signature area is less clear, but that just means someone applied little pressure - it is the ink that counts and I am sure we will see a scan of the back, when the blogosphere stop’s making themselves look foolish...

blogtownhall. link.

...QUESTION: Are there seals hidden from view on the "Certificate of Live Birth" images posted to (a) the Daily Kos. (b) BarackObama.com (aka "Fight the Smears") and/or (c) the two images posted on OPENDNA's PhotoBucket account?

ANSWER: YES to (a), but a big, fat NO to (b) and (c)

b) The "Fight the Smears" COLB:

(c-2) OpenDNA's 2nd COLB:

So, what have we learned from all this?

There's more than meets the naked eye, for one.

You can do a lot of devious things with graphics program, for another.

Mostly, however, we STILL do not have any GENUINE certified copies of Barack Obama's birth certificate or Certificate of Live Birth.

(I have not posted all the images shown on both links.)

3,223 posted on 07/13/2008 4:41:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“Why can’t they simply scan and post both sides instead of relying on graphically enhanced faint appearances of a seal? “

I suppose if they wanted to do, they could. Be brave and ask Obama campaign directly.

But I have a plea:
Why can’t the rumor-mongers stop for a second and realize that leading questions are not a substitute for evidence? That absense of a particular piece of evidence is NOT evidence of its absense?

This thinking ... “Thy myth isn’t busted until Obama releases both sides of the document” ... is WRONG. Until Obama releases exactly what you want you have suspicions but thats all. that’s why the myth remains busted - you CANNOT simple concoct ‘evidence’ out of your own suspicions, theories and rumors.

And when you do come up with “theory X” and it is shown to be wrong, admit it and think on what it means before you move on to theory Y and Z of why ‘its a fake’.
See #3223 for the faint impressions of the stamp that ARE on the Obama COLB graphic, and in the right plce, near the reversed date stamp bleed-through.
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

The fact that they were detected *after* people insisted they “didnt exist” proves the point that the ‘its a forgery’ crowd have made claims that turned out not to be true.

Everyone keeps trying to be Buckhead on this thread and gets just close enough to be off by one letter.


3,274 posted on 07/13/2008 9:15:15 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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