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To: browardchad
Okay, I have a more minimalist version of David's storyline, I don't think there is an airport picture from the early sixties travels -- I think the ones with Obama Sr are early seventies, just based on the clothing. I do think people telling the Kenyan birth story have less reason to have created a legend than Obama's statesides. The Mercer Island friends -- some small talk is hard to fake -- when they say they "sort of thought they remembered" that Stanley arrived from Canada, or when they say Stanley did not know how to change a diaper -- that's true, imo. Because why? Don't know the reason, for certain, but "something happened" besides just a birth. Stanley was running back home. ... Speculation ... just trying to explain what the heck is up with the birth of that poor baby, Obama.

1961 is a very advanced era, records wise. If he was born here, somebody has a documentary record, photo, bill, notes, report -- something! But if he was born in Kenya? Maybe a record, or maybe just the oral family tradition.

Well we have reports of the oral tradition -- in Kenya, and we have no such detailed reports US, and we have no documents.

I don't *want* anything to be true -- the truth is what it is. And what is the truth about this man's birth -- where and when did it happen?

Yes, Obama is a master of the moment now, isn't he? Will beats all. His internal drives, his will, from what do they arise? He is "change", he is "hope", he is "a uniter"! He wanted to change his circumstance -- to have Dad and Mom, together, his own and not the substitute. He wants to recover the hope that he must have had as a child -- see the airport picture, look at how happy he was, in his own dad's arms -- that his parents would magically reunite. Magic, of a sort. was all around him in his life. He wasn't living in tribal Kenya, or second-world Indonesia -- magic! He was in the best of all Hawaiian schools, a exotic among the elite of the exotics - magic! He lived in some many worlds -- africa, indonesian, muslim, living-room marxism, upper-class banking and business -- magic! Who would not want to magically UNITE them all?

2,744 posted on 07/09/2008 7:09:35 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Well we have reports of the oral tradition -- in Kenya...

Can you give me a pointer to these? Several others have referred to them, as well, but I've never seen them. Who reported this? When? Have you seen them? I am very, very interested to see them.

2,758 posted on 07/10/2008 5:37:34 AM PDT by PhatHead
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