You are making several assumptions.
#1 We don’t know that the sneak-peeks were done by clinton operatives, (though that is the ways to bet)
#2 We can’t assume that the Hildabeast would immediately leak anything. (she’s held the data in the purloined FBI files over peoples heads for a looooong time, and gotten more milage and favors than instantly releasing them would have ever garnered)
#3 You don’t know that the looks weren’t really Obama operatives’ attempts to alter the files
#4 You don’t know that the attempt weren’t republican fishing expeditions.
#5 You don’t know if the unauthorized access attempts got in far enough to uncover anything juicy.
#6 And you keep stubbornly insisting that an overworked GS-0.5 clerk would instantly detect a pretty good forgery, or even a genuine BC based on incorrect data supplied to the county clerk, and magically and unfailingly get the accurate place of birth on a passport.
Given that I know Darling Daughter’s BC does not accurately reflect the circumstances of her birth - by court order -, and given that I just went through considerable effort to correct my SS records (they had my middle name wrong, my city of birth as a non-existent location, my mom’s name wrong, etc.) I don’t have quite the blind, unreasoning, robotic, automatic and uncritical acceptance of anything on a government form as Absolute Truth that you do.
08 Jul 2008 at 6:26 pmClarice,
Thanks, but all meaningless. The point I made was the fact HI is not investigating a fraud. Their willingness to discuss it without raising alarm bells means they KNOW they provided a copy to Obama.
This is the biggest joke I have ever seen. There were multiple reasons why the scan was a solid image of a real BC. The tell tales of the seal, signature area (which match the size and shape of other HI BCs) and the data stamp all bleeding through from the back show it to be a authentic scan.
Finally, Opendna’s ‘blank original’ is of much lower resolution - as those nut cases showed on their websites. You CANNOT recover lost resolution from jpeg images. There is no way to create the Kos image from the Opendna file - end of story.
There are ways for Opendna to lose the faint telltales though - which means this progression only goes one way, from the Kos/BHO scans to the Opendna mockup.
Sorry, but this myth has been busted. If you can’t believe me and Charles Johnson on technical matters, then it is like some layman telling you how to do law.
Cheers, AJStrata
The argument boils down to this "I'm cranky and short-tempered and fr*gn arrogant so TRUST ME, damn it!"
What a cheap level of "proof" our omniscient fellows who hold themselves to be the colossi of the blogosphere do accept. Makes one question what else they take for granted.
“#1 We don’t know that the sneak-peeks were done by clinton operatives, (though that is the ways to bet)”
Yes, it was shown that it might have been Obama-friendlies.
“#2 We can’t assume that the Hildabeast would immediately leak anything.”
I think we can assume that much. She was in ‘kitchen-sink mode’ from mid-Feb to mid-May. If she had it, she would have used it. Ergo, she didn’t. She’s not going to wait for Obama to be the nominee and *then* come in.
“#3 You don’t know that the looks weren’t really Obama operatives’ attempts to alter the files”
True.
“#4 You don’t know that the attempt weren’t republican fishing expeditions.”
Again, if there was a bombshell in there, then something would have leaked out.
“#5 You don’t know if the unauthorized access attempts got in far enough to uncover anything juicy.”
The specific point I was making that if his passport
had a different birthplace, it would have come out.
Given your caveats, it is *possible* that a bombshell
could still be in there and not leaked. But IMHO still
not *likely*.
Nothing was found, ergo, high probability that nothing was there worth reporting.
“#6 And you keep stubbornly insisting that an overworked GS-0.5 clerk would instantly detect a pretty good forgery, or even a genuine BC based on incorrect data supplied to the county clerk, and magically and unfailingly get the accurate place of birth on a passport.”
Others keep stubbornly insisting that there is something to forge, when there is no ‘there’ there. I am reasonably (but not 100% proven) convinced that the Obama birth cert. is not a forgery; that campaign is not so stupid as to stand behind an internet fake, and see comments of AJStrata, and LGF (who helped bust the 2004 forged CBS draft memo docs).
If its not a fake, then there really is an official record of Obama’s birth in Honolulu in Aug 1961.
I don’t have to insist that all Govt records are perfect,
but I am sure that 99.9% of passport ‘place of birth’ records are accurate, and I am saying that the preponderance of evidence
falls on Obama’s birth record on his passport being accurate as well with 99.9% probability, and that with 99.9% probability his passports says “place of birth: Honolulu, Hawaii”.
You can mutter about murder, but there’s no dead body there.