“Just because he may have submitted a BC when he applied for a passport does not mean he was a citizen eligible for the presidency. He could have been born in another country for all that. Just because he has a passport doesn’t mean a thing UNLESS someone has seen his passport they don’t know where he was born or not.”
It means a heck of a lot. We know Obama has a passport, because he travelled to many places, like Kenya and before that Pakistan and as a child Indonesia. It means the US considered him a citizen. They could do so only if he was a natural born US citizen, since he is not a naturalized citizen.
1. His passport says his place of birth.
2. It is inconcievable that his passport says anything *other* than Honolulu Hawaii. Nobody like Obama would run for President and have his place of birth in his bio be different than what his passport says. For one, there was a breach of passport security, and it would be bizarre indeed for that to take place and the intruders not know something was seriously amiss and it become news item of the year.
3. That leaves only the possibility that his passport is wrong in listing Honolulu Hawaii and only deliberate fraud by him or his mother (even lying to Barack about his place of birth) took place. You have to believe (a) they wanted to commit fraud and (b) they somehow succeeded. Neither is at all plausible.
It actually means ‘case closed’ on this nutty theory since you have a thick and deep conspiracy theory just to successfully change a place of birth.
I would be interested in Obama releasing an old passport with photo etc. just to show.
Yeah. It's inconceivable that someone would want American citizenship for their baby badly enough to lie on a government form.
Everyone was worried about what Sandy Berger stole. Perhaps he left something?
(not arguing here but wanting to learn)
So what you’re saying here is that there are only two ways to be a citizen (natural born/naturalized)? I thought one could be a citizen at birth but still not be eligible for the presidency. Just because he has a passport doesn’t mean he has met the requirements for presidency. Our son in law from Scotland) has a US passport. Unless we see obama’s passport no one knows where he was born. As far as the breach of security thing, the one who breached it was Obama’s “man”, wasn’t it? If he was doing the snooping to get something on McCain, then decided to snoop on obama so it’d not look so bad, then what? We don’t know exactly what he was told about his birth by his mother either - only what is told to the media about their conversation.
For myself, I could care less where he was born and not sure the COLB is fake or not BUT it seems that he is hiding something on his BC that he doesn’t want out.