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To: David
The issue is what (c) said before amendment and to what periods it is applicable.

The court said no substantive change. If you took the time to check rather than attempting to keep to an error in interpretation, the effective date of the CHAPTER can be found the notes to section 1101. It reads as follows:

Effective Date

Section 407 of act June 27, 1952, provided that: “Except as provided in subsection (k) of section 401 [former section 1106 (k) of this title], this Act [this chapter] shall take effect at 12:01 ante meridian United States Eastern Standard Time on the one hundred eightieth day immediately following the date of its enactment [June 27, 1952].”

When I do the math I get the original effective date of the Chapter as December 24, 1952. Last time I checked, December 24, 1952 is AFTER December 23, 1952 which is what the original language was change to when it was when amended in 1988.

You see a substantive change by making the date determinable by the statute itself when the change doesn't change the actual effective date of 1409 (c) and the SC doesn't see that as a substantive change.

The case clearly tells us what the changes were regarding unwed mothers from the first law through 1988. Those reading this thread also can see clearly that you are holding to an error and this would raise questions regarding your other interpretations.

2,207 posted on 07/07/2008 5:36:01 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
The case clearly tells us what the changes were regarding unwed mothers from the first law through 1988. Those reading this thread also can see clearly that you are holding to an error and this would raise questions regarding your other interpretations.

Look, you keep saying insulting stuff like this--I'm really easy, I am just trying to find the statute that tells us what the law is and the effective date provisions that spell out when that statute is effective on our facts.

You keep posting this wide general stuff which is fine if it helps you understand how the law applies to the current facts but we don't get closure because we can't set out a statute that states the law and a statute that sets out how and to what it applies.

You know there is error in the general stuff you're posting because it says there aren't any amendments after 1986 and you know the provision you are working on was adopted in 1988.

You also know you have statutory material that tells you they put the December 1952 date in the statute with what appears to be a November 1986 effective date which they put in with a Tech bill in 1988--what did the statute say before they did that so you can at least see what the law was in 1986 before amendment? And when, how, and when effective was the pre-1986 law modified effective to the 1991 birth?

And I find a bunch of the same kind of general stuff which I haven't posted which tells me that in 1991, the law applicable to any birth offshore is the ten year five year rule. I don't post that yet because I can't come up with a statute that says anything other than what I have already posted. Doesn't mean I am not looking.

I also have a whine--I can't do any better than you can with the on-line search engine; I am two thousand miles from my office and the best law search engine I have in my machine won't get behind the current version either.

Do you have a copy somewhere of the full version of Sec. 309 in effect immediately prior to the 1988 Amendment and as of 1952? Together with legislative history and effective dates?

2,212 posted on 07/07/2008 6:07:12 PM PDT by David (...)
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