[usmcobra]

What you are saying is that Obama could have as many as 4 legitimate birth certificates issued by governments following their own "modification" rules.

If all those documents (or copies thereof) were on file in Hawaii, with the information on them making up part of the data base accessed to produce a modern, up to date "certificate", you could easily get multiple certificates issued at different times responding to different requests for certification. They would all be legitimate and different.

The real question is of course could any of them exclude him from being our president and quite possibly from being even a citizen.

Under Hawaiian law Obama didn't need to be a born in the state or even the United States to get a Hawaiian birth certificate.

Since the Constitution doesn't delve into the question of citizenship or the forfeiture of citizenship of minor children, legitimate or legitimate we are left with The Laws passed by congress as our guide....

Reading this case and the finding there in bring some facts to light that may be pertinent...

If Obama ever had an Indonesian Passport or was considered an Indonesian citizen by the legal process of adoption in that country based upon his mother's age where he was born(if it was outside the United States as has been suggested) and he didn't reaffirm his rights as a citizen at 18, is he a US citizen? or eligible to be president based upon dual (US and Indonesian) or even triple citizenship (Kenyan, US and Indonesian)?

A great many conservatives believe that this is some sort of trap by the Obama campaign.

I beg to differ(I been wanting to use that pic as an eye catch ever since I found it) The whole issue of Obama's citizenship as well as his birth certificate has them doing things they shouldn't have to do or say if there was nothing to hide.

[bvw]

Every American can be and should be when needed, an Admiral Benbow. That, btw, is one reason why America won the Revolution. Each soldier and sailor in that war fought as if the whole of the war came down to his (and sometimes a her) own ability to carry through the action. Whether actions were the arm bearing of the Continental Army, Navy, Marines and militias, the ink pushing of the founders, the financiers and the Congress or oratorical spirit-raising of the parsons and men like Tom Paine. Even the timely unsual action such as the Tea Parties or exotic thing to be done - such as the widow of Bordentown who drew the Hessian commander away from his post.

For every General Washington needed men like a simple backwoods-man Rodgers-Clark, an old indian fighter militia general like Herkimer, a able-writing drunk like Paine and so many unknown to this day sailors and captains of boats to stand up and take totally independent action in order to win. Washington never spoke down to or ignored the value of these independent actions of individuals and small groups operating on their own authority but with all the alacrity and carry-through of a Benbow.

There is a war today for this country, for this ideal of Liberty, like in those days, one fought by ideas and spirit as much a war actions.

Let every able man and woman join to the battle, and not shy from it for excuses of seeming impolite or being embarrassed. Benbow was an embarrassing man, too.