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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

http://www.mydamnchannel.com/datastore/UserFiles/obama%20and%20mom.jpg

do you mean this one, from the website you linked? If that’s the one, there’s nothing I can see that identifies when it was taken.


1,650 posted on 07/06/2008 1:16:38 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I agree, I was mistaken before about the picture as I got hung up the birth year discrepancy that exists at the site. You are correct they don't give a date on the picture.

If we could know the date for certain that would help though.

Interesting that now we have a discrepancy between when Obama Sr. supposedly began at Harvard too and left his wife.

You could be correct that the site is just apparently wrong on everything.

1,653 posted on 07/06/2008 1:25:02 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Fred Nerks
Does Obama Jr. look older than one year old in that picture?

I think he does.

Look at the caption they give that picture on the chicago tribune site: www.chicagotribune.com/.../2007-03/28585960.jpg

"A young Barack Obama is shown with his mother, Ann, in Hawaii shortly after his father, Barack Obama Sr., left the two to pursue his studies at Harvard. Barack's mother was given the name Stanley Ann Dunham because of her father's strong desire to have a son."

1,654 posted on 07/06/2008 1:35:39 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Fred Nerks
Also I guess we have to consider the reverse, could Obama have been born before 1961 in Hawaii before Hawaii was a state?

That would also explain routine discrepancies in the reporting of his age.

One site claims he was 3 in 67.

His birth certificate says he was born in 61.

The other site says that he went to Indonesia in 67 when he was 6 after his parent's marriage failed.

Would his parents marriage have failed though in 62 or 65?

Those are the alternate dates listed for when his dad went to Harvard.

Could he have been 6 sometime between 62 and 65 rather than 67 as mentioned in the article and could he have been born before Hawaii was a state?

Didn't Obama support an interpretation of natural born as including born in a US territory outside of a military base?

It has been mentioned on this thread that he was told by an advisor not to answer a question about Hawaii's statehood right?

A real birth certificate needed to answer all of these questions I guess.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/politics/main3831108.shtml

If that other site was to be correct on Obama being 3 in 1967 and if Obama's reported biological father left in 62 to Harvard then could Barack have a different father?

http://www.mydamnchannel.com/blog/tag/Stanley%20Ann%20Durham%20Soetoro/page/1/default.aspx

Doesn't seem this second site is correct though.

Would be a lot easier if they would just produce an easily authenticated birth certificate.

1,658 posted on 07/06/2008 2:53:46 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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