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To: PhatHead

OBAMA HAS HAD PASSPORTS WITH HIS PLACE OF BIRTH STAMPED ON THEM FOR MUCH OF HIS LIFE.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/5/15947/95667/125/547039

Opendna: Is Senator Barack H. Obama a natural born US Citizen?

Jay McKinnon: Beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Senator’s travels as a child and young man required a passport. For over a century, US passports have included a field for place of birth. (Fact) To the best of my recollection, every passport I have ever seen (and they are legion) has included a field for place of birth. In order to enter Indonesia in 1967, young Barack Obama would have required a passport. We know from his kindergarten “essay” that young Barack was aware of his US citizenship while living in Indonesia.

In order to return to the United States in 1971 young Barack would have required a passport. At his entry he would have either been a US Citizen or an Alien. If he was an Alien, he had a State Department-issued visa; if he didn’t have a visa, he was American. Again, we know prior to that date that he believed himself to be an American. Since 1971 Senator Obama has traveled many times on US passports and he now – as a US Senator – travels on an Official passport which carries greater diplomatic weight (and requires greater background scrutiny) than what most American travelers use. By virtue of holding an Official US passport, Senator Obama has better proof of his identify, citizenship and place of birth than upwards of 90% of Americans.

In order to believe that Barack Obama was born anywhere but the United States, we must believe that there is [1] a successful conspiracy (including people now dead for decades) – dating back to the 1960s – to hide his place of birth and defraud the State Department with the sole goal that Senator Obama be allowed to run for president in 2008; or [2] an on-going conspiracy within Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s Department to allow a foreign-born person to run for president. I regard both of these options as rather silly.

In March of 2008, the State Department revealed that employees had been caught looking at Senator Obama’s passport records. In order to believe that Senator Obama is not a natural born US Citizen, we must believe that (1) those caught would rather go to jail than blow the whistle on the State Department’s cover-up; and (2) there are federal ethics investigators who have examined Senator Obama’s records and are now party to the conspiracy. I regard both of these options as very silly.

While it is conceivably possible that Barack Obama is not a natural born US Citizen, I regard the odds as so infinitesimally small as to put the fact of his US-birth beyond a reasonable doubt. I regard the hope that credible evidence establishing foreign birth will be discovered on the internet to be profoundly silly.


1,518 posted on 07/05/2008 9:15:50 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG
with the sole goal that Senator Obama be allowed to run for president in 2008

You mean that's the only reason someone would want to say they were born in America? Just so they can run for President?

Wow. Just wow.

1,525 posted on 07/05/2008 9:25:23 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: WOSG
I agree, and previously raised the passport issue on this thread. There have been numerous posts referring to a Kenyan birth almost as if it is an established fact. That is why I keep asking for some kind of evidence, some reason to believe that.

Right now, all we know for a fact is that the Kos-posted birth certificate was a fake.

1,713 posted on 07/06/2008 5:42:34 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: WOSG

Thanks for the link. On reading, it looks like McKinnon did not say he forged the Kos certificate...


1,728 posted on 07/06/2008 6:34:36 AM PDT by PhatHead
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