Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[null and void]

If you’re getting flak, you must be over the target.

Time will tell.

Watch for secondary explosions...

[txhurl]

There, KJ, I pinged him for ya.

Now.. will you smoke up out of your lamp and contribute something useful to the discussion?

[jellybean]

KJ, I believe your COLB looks just like Obama's. However I don't believe Obama's is real - I think it's manufactured. In light of techdude's analysis I would be interested in seeing a genuine certificate to see if the security border shows the same appearance of cut and paste. You could scan your COLB and black out all personal information (which I'm not interested in). If you're not comfortable doing that, just the top with the security border and a bit of the background would be enough to compare. The Decosta certificate is much too different to give a comparable comparison.

Please consider my proposal. You could help solve this riddle.

[null and void]

You, on the other hand, seem to be afraid of pinging Jim Robinson to accept my offer.

Not in the slightest.

I merely assume that you have contacted him.

If he thought you were worth a pinch of [fecal matter], he would have responded.

What's that? He didn't? Hmmmmm...

[KJC1]

No, I have not posted my BC. What I have done, repeatedly, is provide info, and offer my BC up for Jim Robinson to inspect (as opposed to the psychos on this thread who assure me their intentions are good yet attack like blind piranhas).

My offer stands. Jim Robinson is not a deluded nutjob, and I trust him with my info especially since I have been a donor for almost four years and he knows who I am anyway.

[null and void]

So HI revised its forms and kept the exact same form number, revision date and print method?

Amazing.

[WOSG]

txflake:
“How ‘bout we just ping you as an idiot, and leave JR out of this until you post something worthwhile on the topic.”

Your insults are unbecoming. You should read this first before you boldly spout off. The myth is busted, really, really busted:
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5652

“Your and WOSG’s venom is outed: JR would have shut us down two months ago re: this ‘bunny trail’ if it wasn’t truly developing.”

Sure, it’s ‘developing’. It’s developing into a dead end. There’s nothing for JimRob to shut down but to leave this thread as a record of the rabbit trail. It’s within FR rule to be wrong, we’ve all been wrong at least some of the time.
The “Obama’s COLB graphic is a fake!” is wrong. A wrong conclusion based on claims and theories that got disproven. It’s busted.

“At a very minimum, in discovering Stanley Ann and her parents, we find that Obama is more steeped in Marxism than we’d ever have known without the birth certificate issue”

Horse apples! We knew about Obama’s Marxist past *before* this who farce erupted, and *I* was posting on it! see this blog:
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate

Meanwhile, this side issue has seriously slowed down my ability to expose the REAL issues on Obama.

Time to lay the myth to bed and move on.

[txhurl]

Oh, so you’re going for an exclusive with JR. Not sharing with FReepers.

Ergo, you are no FReeper, by definition, no matter how much you’ve contributed.

[Kevmo]

Meanwhile, this side issue has seriously slowed down my ability to expose the REAL issues on Obama.
***Then ignore it. Duh.

[WOSG]

“Sorry if I missed anyone here ping-wise, but if the people who think Obama’s certificate looks fake (borders, “FILED” versus “ACCEPTED”, faint impression of a seal that is hardly visible from the front, or anything else) want to REALLY AND TRULY know the truth, then join me in pinging Jim Robinson to ask him to have me send him my certified, signed, embossed copy that looks 100% like Obama’s.”

In the interests of getting to the truth of the matter,
I would ask you to go ahead and do this.

A surer way though is to share it as a graphic for review here, with an original sent to JimRob to vouch for the legitimacy of the graphic.

[null and void]

I don’t know about you, but I’d handle anything he sent to me with gloves.

[Political Junkie Too]

I do understand the fear of exposing one's anonymity. How does one share a photo without doing that?

-PJ

[KJC1]

Not quite, ask him to request my BC.

[WOSG]

I’m a glutton for punishment, hoping to pull people out of the votex ...

comment on LGF:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30562_Obama_Birth_Certificate_Forgery_Myth_Destroyed/comments/#ctop

“Like most conspiracy theories, this one will not go away no matter how often it is debunked. The best debunkers can do is ensure that no honest people are taken in by it and that only hard-core conspira-loons provide the future audience.”

[Political Junkie Too]

Just out of curiosity, are you aware that JR recently had surgery, and is recovering from it, and may not be interested in arbitrating a dispute solely designed to protect one's identity?

-PJ

[KJC1]

LOL. You are crazy. Like I would send my personal info to YOU, a clear adversary. Are you afraid that Jim Robinson will confirm what I have been trying to tell you?

[txhurl]

Every post of yours I see is pimping your own blog.

Until I see a post something like

FReepers: ditch the birth certificate chase, STAT! - love, JR

I'm gonna chase it.

[KJC1]

Yes, I am aware of his recent surgery. Why does this matter to you now, because he might state a truth that is inconvenient to you?

[WOSG]

One key remaining concern with Obama’s COLB is that the border ‘doesnt match’ a similar form from 2002.
As null-and-void asked, why is the format different, if its the same form revision? Well, KJC1’s form should address that concern.

If the numbers were mostly blacked out and the surname blacked out, you could share the key important similarities while reatining anonymity.

KJC1, if you have a scan of the COLB, I can do the needful things and share, if you nor noone else can do so.

[KJC1]

Chase it, like a bug into a windshield. You go, girl!